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Can the Griz ever compete in the NCAA's? The answer's easy

HighLineGRIZ said:
I don't know. The Butlers, Creightons and Wichita States of this world have done pretty well in past tournaments with half-court/slow it down styles. Bottom line is that as long as Tinkle is the coach, you won't be seing us run a high-tempo game. I do think that grabbing a JC or 2 is not a bad idea. We've had some success with JCs in the past and JC players are more receptive to going to a mid-major program where they can contribute immediatly. I would like to see us find some athletes that will go down low and rebound the ball and pick up some junk points ala Qvale, Strait, Davis... It makes a difference when most of your offense comes from the perimiter.

Outside of Butler ONE YEAR, how many times have Creighton or Wichita State played in the Sweet 16? And the year Wichita State made it that far, they two two first-round NBA players, on of which led the nation in rebounding.
 
Growler1 said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
I don't know. The Butlers, Creightons and Wichita States of this world have done pretty well in past tournaments with half-court/slow it down styles. Bottom line is that as long as Tinkle is the coach, you won't be seing us run a high-tempo game. I do think that grabbing a JC or 2 is not a bad idea. We've had some success with JCs in the past and JC players are more receptive to going to a mid-major program where they can contribute immediatly. I would like to see us find some athletes that will go down low and rebound the ball and pick up some junk points ala Qvale, Strait, Davis... It makes a difference when most of your offense comes from the perimiter.

Outside of Butler ONE YEAR, how many times have Creighton or Wichita State played in the Sweet 16? And the year Wichita State made it that far, they two two first-round NBA players, on of which led the nation in rebounding.

Butler in Sweet 16 ONE year? Now that's pretty funny. Butler played in the CHAMPIONSHIP game the past TWO years. If you did in fact make any money in life, it was obviously due to pure luck. You are too stupid to have deserved it.
 
PlayerRep said:
Growler1 said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
I don't know. The Butlers, Creightons and Wichita States of this world have done pretty well in past tournaments with half-court/slow it down styles. Bottom line is that as long as Tinkle is the coach, you won't be seing us run a high-tempo game. I do think that grabbing a JC or 2 is not a bad idea. We've had some success with JCs in the past and JC players are more receptive to going to a mid-major program where they can contribute immediatly. I would like to see us find some athletes that will go down low and rebound the ball and pick up some junk points ala Qvale, Strait, Davis... It makes a difference when most of your offense comes from the perimiter.

Outside of Butler ONE YEAR, how many times have Creighton or Wichita State played in the Sweet 16? And the year Wichita State made it that far, they two two first-round NBA players, on of which led the nation in rebounding.

Butler in Sweet 16 ONE year? Now that's pretty funny. Butler played in the CHAMPIONSHIP game the past TWO years. If you did in fact make any money in life, it was obviously due to pure luck. You are too stupid to have deserved it.

Yeah, i'm a lucky guy. If you my kind of luck you would stick your thumb up your arse you your head could breathe.
 
Growler1 said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
I don't know. The Butlers, Creightons and Wichita States of this world have done pretty well in past tournaments with half-court/slow it down styles. Bottom line is that as long as Tinkle is the coach, you won't be seing us run a high-tempo game. I do think that grabbing a JC or 2 is not a bad idea. We've had some success with JCs in the past and JC players are more receptive to going to a mid-major program where they can contribute immediatly. I would like to see us find some athletes that will go down low and rebound the ball and pick up some junk points ala Qvale, Strait, Davis... It makes a difference when most of your offense comes from the perimiter.

Outside of Butler ONE YEAR, how many times have Creighton or Wichita State played in the Sweet 16? And the year Wichita State made it that far, they two two first-round NBA players, on of which led the nation in rebounding.

The Missouri Valley Conference has been the most successful mid-major conference in the tournament the past decade and they are mostly made up of teams that implement half-court offenses. Outside of that conference, Butler, VCU, and George Mason have had the most success. VCU and George Mason have the up-tempo offenses you are referring to but Butler has one of the slowest paced offenses in the country and they have played in 2 of the last 3 national championships (more than ONE Year) and were a buzzer beater away from beating Duke to win it all a couple years ago. St. Mary's and Gonzaga, 2 other "mid-majors", are also half court style offenses. Both of which have grown into perennial Top 25 programs. Outside of VCU, none of the teams you've mentioned have made it past the 2nd round. Therefore, your argument that we have to change to an up-tempo offense is a very arguable opinion and history doesn’t support it.
 
Player rep and high line person,
Grab a clue.. Your argument is irrelevant.. Instead of fighting over a style of offense or whether UM is considered in the same as a true mid major you both might want to get your heads out of your arse's and start pushing March madness within having NCAA D 1aa tournament. Until that time all arguments you two Bobby Knight's have on the two subjects should take place floating on the Milk River :D :D :D
 
HighLineGRIZ said:
Growler1 said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
I don't know. The Butlers, Creightons and Wichita States of this world have done pretty well in past tournaments with half-court/slow it down styles. Bottom line is that as long as Tinkle is the coach, you won't be seing us run a high-tempo game. I do think that grabbing a JC or 2 is not a bad idea. We've had some success with JCs in the past and JC players are more receptive to going to a mid-major program where they can contribute immediatly. I would like to see us find some athletes that will go down low and rebound the ball and pick up some junk points ala Qvale, Strait, Davis... It makes a difference when most of your offense comes from the perimiter.

Outside of Butler ONE YEAR, how many times have Creighton or Wichita State played in the Sweet 16? And the year Wichita State made it that far, they two two first-round NBA players, on of which led the nation in rebounding.

The Missouri Valley Conference has been the most successful mid-major conference in the tournament the past decade and they are mostly made up of teams that implement half-court offenses. Outside of that conference, Butler, VCU, and George Mason have had the most success. VCU and George Mason have the up-tempo offenses you are referring to but Butler has one of the slowest paced offenses in the country and they have played in 2 of the last 3 national championships (more than ONE Year) and were a buzzer beater away from beating Duke to win it all a couple years ago. St. Mary's and Gonzaga, 2 other "mid-majors", are also half court style offenses. Both of which have grown into perennial Top 25 programs. Outside of VCU, none of the teams you've mentioned have made it past the 2nd round. Therefore, your argument that we have to change to an up-tempo offense is a very arguable opinion and history doesn’t support it.


yes it does
 
Growler1 said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
Growler1 said:
HighLineGRIZ said:
I don't know. The Butlers, Creightons and Wichita States of this world have done pretty well in past tournaments with half-court/slow it down styles. Bottom line is that as long as Tinkle is the coach, you won't be seing us run a high-tempo game. I do think that grabbing a JC or 2 is not a bad idea. We've had some success with JCs in the past and JC players are more receptive to going to a mid-major program where they can contribute immediatly. I would like to see us find some athletes that will go down low and rebound the ball and pick up some junk points ala Qvale, Strait, Davis... It makes a difference when most of your offense comes from the perimiter.

Outside of Butler ONE YEAR, how many times have Creighton or Wichita State played in the Sweet 16? And the year Wichita State made it that far, they two two first-round NBA players, on of which led the nation in rebounding.

The Missouri Valley Conference has been the most successful mid-major conference in the tournament the past decade and they are mostly made up of teams that implement half-court offenses. Outside of that conference, Butler, VCU, and George Mason have had the most success. VCU and George Mason have the up-tempo offenses you are referring to but Butler has one of the slowest paced offenses in the country and they have played in 2 of the last 3 national championships (more than ONE Year) and were a buzzer beater away from beating Duke to win it all a couple years ago. St. Mary's and Gonzaga, 2 other "mid-majors", are also half court style offenses. Both of which have grown into perennial Top 25 programs. Outside of VCU, none of the teams you've mentioned have made it past the 2nd round. Therefore, your argument that we have to change to an up-tempo offense is a very arguable opinion and history doesn’t support it.


yes it does

Tell me how recent history supports the notion that we have to change to an up-tempo offense to be successful in the NCAA tournament?
 
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