BSC Officiating

[mtgrizrule]

I don't have time to watch every BSC game. With that said, overall how is the officiating with non Griz games? I'm hoping, fans of other teams will provide input. Right now, I'm holding back I really want to rip into them.

What can the conference do to improve the consistency? My biggest criticism is, more consistency with holding calls. We all know, technically holding could be called every play. However, our opponents tend to get away with obvious holds, than the GRIZ do. Is it asking too much, to call things the same, both ways?

 

[Montanabob]

Bsc officiating is a problem that won't get better (after 30 years of sucking) but be careful what you wish for. Griz may get a lot of bad calls against them but a lot cheap shots they have done over the years were also missed. Like alligator rolls on ankles.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

TBH, I think people are putting too much blame on the officiating. I am not saying that they don't miss things, but other than the roughing call, I have no issue with the calls against the Griz yesterday.

 

[FireGriz]

The Big Sky Conference pays officials poorly in comparison to other leagues. Good officials get poached by other leagues that pay more.The Big Sky replaces its poached officials with the dudes that didn’t make the grading cut to stay in the better paying leagues.

Want better officiating? Pay the better officials to stay. It’s not complicated, but this is the same league that was run into the ground by Doug Foolerton for how long?

 

[mtgriz]

We excoriate coaches and players for mistakes. It’s okay to do it to officials also. That said, I’d say the bad calls even out over the games.

I remember a pre-replay game vs. EWU that went into overtime. The Eagles had kicked a FG and then the Griz went on to score a TD. Trouble was, the Griz had fumbled the ball on a previous play (refs incorrectly called down by contact) and EWU had recovered.

 

[oldrunner]

The BSC does not have the corner on the market of missed calls. Those happen at all levels of football. The officials, on the field, are sometimes screened out by some inconsiderate 350lb guy. From 80 yards away, or on TV, we see it perfectly. You can't call what you can't see. If they did try to call what they think must have happened, they are sure to get it wrong. Players and coaches know this. Fans have a harder time with it.

Those guys in stripes are doing the best that they can in a difficult situation. Things happen fast.

It's okay for fans to be critical. They're, officials, strong individuals and can take it. :clap:

 

[EverettGriz]

The Big Sky Conference pays officials poorly in comparison to other leagues. Good officials get poached by other leagues that pay more.The Big Sky replaces its poached officials with the dudes that didn’t make the grading cut to stay in the better paying leagues.

Want better officiating? Pay the better officials to stay. It’s not complicated, but this is the same league that was run into the ground by Doug Foolerton for how long?

Pay is certainly a significant issue and one which needs to be addressed, but never will be in the bsc. The issues also include prestige and travel. Obviously the top officials are going to choose an FBS game over a bsc game nearly 100 out of 100 times. Travel also comes into play. Would you rather work a game in Seattle, Palo Alto, San Diego, Los Angeles, Fort Collins, or rather Cheney, Greeley, Flagstaff. Hell, even Missoula and Bozeman are a bitch to get to.

Get out of the bsc, immediately get markedly improved officiating.

 

[MikeyGriz]

The Big Sky Conference pays officials poorly in comparison to other leagues. Good officials get poached by other leagues that pay more.The Big Sky replaces its poached officials with the dudes that didn’t make the grading cut to stay in the better paying leagues.

Want better officiating? Pay the better officials to stay. It’s not complicated, but this is the same league that was run into the ground by Doug Foolerton for how long?

Pay is certainly a significant issue and one which needs to be addressed, but never will be in the bsc. The issues also include prestige and travel. Obviously the top officials are going to choose an FBS game over a bsc game nearly 100 out of 100 times. Travel also comes into play. Would you rather work a game in Seattle, Palo Alto, San Diego, Los Angeles, Fort Collins, or rather Cheney, Greeley, Flagstaff. Hell, even Missoula and Bozeman are a bitch to get to.

Get out of the bsc, immediately get markedly improved officiating.

Moving to FBS makes it easier for the refs to get to?

 

[Hoops watcher]

Pay is certainly a significant issue and one which needs to be addressed, but never will be in the bsc. The issues also include prestige and travel. Obviously the top officials are going to choose an FBS game over a bsc game nearly 100 out of 100 times. Travel also comes into play. Would you rather work a game in Seattle, Palo Alto, San Diego, Los Angeles, Fort Collins, or rather Cheney, Greeley, Flagstaff. Hell, even Missoula and Bozeman are a bitch to get to.

Get out of the bsc, immediately get markedly improved officiating.

Moving to FBS makes it easier for the refs to get to?

After years of beating this drum the list of reasons to get out is getting pretty thin..... :lol: :lol: .

 

[EverettGriz]

Pay is certainly a significant issue and one which needs to be addressed, but never will be in the bsc. The issues also include prestige and travel. Obviously the top officials are going to choose an FBS game over a bsc game nearly 100 out of 100 times. Travel also comes into play. Would you rather work a game in Seattle, Palo Alto, San Diego, Los Angeles, Fort Collins, or rather Cheney, Greeley, Flagstaff. Hell, even Missoula and Bozeman are a bitch to get to.

Get out of the bsc, immediately get markedly improved officiating.

Moving to FBS makes it easier for the refs to get to?

Evidently you missed the other reasons. Perhaps another read of my post would be beneficial.

 

[Griz#64]

Fix the Damn Re-Play System including the Criteria for review. Officials must make instant decisions, we can sit back and watch 5 replays in close-up and slow-motion. A certain recipe for indigestion and Aggravation for our fan base And tough on the officials that I know are Not Biased against the Griz.!!! I hope

 

[CatsRback]

IMO officiating in general has been below average. Ghost call for block in the back cost us against Wyoming. These refs also get particularly soft at times when they think a TD is celebrated too much… way too subjective. They place a big emphasis on not taunting and then someone gets away with flexing over another player and they act like they didn’t see it. Then it leads to chippy plays. My biggest issue is the subjective calling. Objectively, I don’t know I don’t want to do their job, I do not envy dealing with us fans…

 

[MikeyGriz]

Moving to FBS makes it easier for the refs to get to?

Evidently you missed the other reasons. Perhaps another read of my post would be beneficial.

No, I read all of your reasons, I'm just questioning the validity of this one. Can you please explain how it works?

 

[Wolf777]

I think this year more than anything the consistency or lack thereof has been the most frustrating part. If you’re going to call a penalty it sets a precedent for how you should be calling the game on both sides of the ball throughout the game. You can sense the frustration from both sidelines throughout every conference game when they are left dumbfounded by a call. I agree that the only consistency is that the bsc has been frustrating for decades. However, we also know that the only way to make sure this is a non-issue at any level of football is to go out and kick enough a$$ to the point where the refs in any capacity are insignificant. A lesson that I hope this team is starting to understand. You control your own destiny, not anyone else.

 

[EverettGriz]

Evidently you missed the other reasons. Perhaps another read of my post would be beneficial.

No, I read all of your reasons, I'm just questioning the validity of this one. Can you please explain how it works?

It doesn't seem particularly complex or confusing, but I'll try with an example:

You live 90 minutes away from a 5 star Michelin restaurant. You eat there often. You don't like the drive, of course, but you're happy to do it for the quality of the meal.

You also live 90 minutes from a Burger King. How often do you eat there?

 

[MikeyGriz]

No, I read all of your reasons, I'm just questioning the validity of this one. Can you please explain how it works?

It doesn't seem particularly complex or confusing, but I'll try with an example:

You live 90 minutes away from a 5 star Michelin restaurant. You eat there often. You don't like the drive, of course, but you're happy to do it for the quality of the meal.

You also live 90 minutes from a Burger King. How often do you eat there?

That still doesn't explain to me how moving up to FBS makes it easier to get in or out of Missoula or Bozeman.

Also, I'm not a Burger King fan, so even if I lived next door, I wouldn't go.

 

[jodcon]

Well to be honest this is a big part of it…

 

[EverettGriz]

It doesn't seem particularly complex or confusing, but I'll try with an example:

You live 90 minutes away from a 5 star Michelin restaurant. You eat there often. You don't like the drive, of course, but you're happy to do it for the quality of the meal.

You also live 90 minutes from a Burger King. How often do you eat there?

That still doesn't explain to me how moving up to FBS makes it easier to get in or out of Missoula or Bozeman.

Also, I'm not a Burger King fan, so even if I lived next door, I wouldn't go.

Uh, it doesn't clearly. What it DOES do is emphasize is that officials are willing to put up with some difficult travel to officiate FBS games as opposed to noco vs idaho state. But I suspect in reality you've figured this out by now.

 

[griz4life]

I assume the BSC pays shit for officiating. This is a conference with three three Cal teams that whine to no end about traveling to Montana because of cost. That's a team thing too, having been on a flight with the Sac women's basketball team, I can say they hate traveling here.

How many games a week does the BSC have? 6 maybe? That's 42 officials, I'm sure the low budget schools that make up the majority of the Big Sky bitch about the pay.

We're not sitting with the hot lunch kids. We're sitting the kids who have a poptart and a bindle of meth.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I assume the BSC pays shit for officiating. This is a conference with three three Cal teams that whine to no end about traveling to Montana because of cost. That's a team thing too, having been on a flight with the Sac women's basketball team, I can say they hate traveling here.

How many games a week does the BSC have? 6 maybe? That's 42 officials, I'm sure the low budget schools that make up the majority of the Big Sky bitch about the pay.

We're not sitting with the hot lunch kids. We're sitting the kids who have a poptart and a bindle of meth.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Idiots.

Like it's any easier for a team to get from Missoula to Sacramento? No matter what, they ALL have to change planes somewhere....Unless the school is in LA, Phoenix, SLC, Seattle, Denver, Dallas or Houston EVERYBODY is changing planes to get to ANY other school. And if they are lucky enough to have a charter plane, what does it matter where they're flying? I swear, people would bitch if they were hung with a new rope. It's a fuck of a lot easier to get to Missoula than it is to Pullman, WA. Just as easy as it is to get to Tucson. Or Eugene. Or Salem. or Stanford. Or Cal. Or Boise State...Colorado State...Air Force....I mean the list is endless. Literally every single one of those is minimum of two plane rides or a plane ride and a shitty bus ride.