BS refs

[DoubleNicks]

Did anyone just see the LG-NAU game? First, congrats ladies for regrouping in OT and getting a tough win after Patton went off to bring back NAU from double digits.

Now, some will think I'm just whining but how long can the Big Sky accept this type of poor performance from its group of refs? Isn't it part of the conference's job to hold the refs accountable? (To those who think I'm whining I took out who the call would have favored. There is one that would have helped NAU. Anyways, the game still would have been close because Patton was hitting pretty much anything she was throwing up there at the end.)

1. player hits a three and gets fouled...then the refs give the shooting team the basket (acknowledging it was during the shot) plus the ball instead of freethrows. That is not accidently missing the call, that is a lack of knowledge of the rule book.

2. player dribbles down court, stops and puts both hands on the ball to pump fake, and decides to take a dribble to get a better shot. Obvious double dribble but not called (well, at least this one might just be the refs are daydreaming or don't have very good eyesight and not necessary an indication of ignorance of their job. Yay, little victories!).

3. after an inbounds pass, player is shoved to the ground and goes out of bounds. Out of bounds and no foul called because naturally that is an advanced collegiate move to slam into the ground on your own and escape out of bounds.

4. similar to #3, after a rebound tipped out of bounds, the two going for the ball end up on the floor with one laying on top of the other. Possibly an over-the-back call? Nope. They never touched they're just playing physical and getting position down there, right?

There were many others, as well, such as messing up possession on a dead ball outabounds. But those were the ones towards the end that were fresh in my mind. So, anyways, when can we switch out the BS refs for some quality Rotary or elementary refs? At least they know when to award freethrows.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Ironic you wrote this. I was about to comment, so far the mens BSC referees are doing a better job in letting them play. That only after watching the 3 BSC games so far this week. I doubt that will last long though.

 

[Grizbeer]

One problem with officials is if you get 2 different refs calling things 2 different ways on the same floor. I think that was evident in the Griz-NAU game Wednesday night, where 1 ref let them play, and the other called everything ticky tack. Compounding this is the officials are in different positions on each side of the court, so the underneath official for one end is the top court official on the other end. That can really create chaos, since there is always a lot more contact under the basket.

A good example is when Cherry picked up his 4th foul at NAU. I think Desheilds had just drive the lane and there was a ton of contact, but no call. NAU brings it down and drives the lane and Cherry brushes against him (didn't even touch the arm) and picks up a foul. (I'm sure NAU fans could point out several instances of where this was reversed, especially in the first half).

The thing is on review both calls were correct and o.k., but it appears to us fans (and the players) that there is bias or incompetence.

I really think the officials are making the right calls for the most part as they see them, it's just that there is too much inconsistency between the refs in how they call things. If they could tighten up the consistency, at least withing the crew calling the same game, it would certainly help.

 

[Mavman]

My only complaint with refs is when a call is made by a ref out of position. I hate when the ref two feet away does not call a foul but the guy fifteen feet away trailing the play blows his whistle :evil:

Other wise I always tell my players no matter what sport, never blame the refs for a loss unless you are willing to give them credit for a victory. They are also to never talk to a ref unless the ref is explaining a call to them and then it is yes sir or no sir.

 

[i do love the griz]

My only complaint with refs is when a call is made by a ref out of position. I hate when the ref two feet away does not call a foul but the guy fifteen feet away trailing the play blows his whistle :evil:

Other wise I always tell my players no matter what sport, never blame the refs for a loss unless you are willing to give them credit for a victory. They are also to never talk to a ref unless the ref is explaining a call to them and then it is yes sir or no sir.

i was never real good at leaving the refs alone... i'm amazed i never got t'd up haha

 

[mtgrizrule]

My only complaint with refs is when a call is made by a ref out of position. I hate when the ref two feet away does not call a foul but the guy fifteen feet away trailing the play blows his whistle :evil:

Other wise I always tell my players no matter what sport, never blame the refs for a loss unless you are willing to give them credit for a victory. They are also to never talk to a ref unless the ref is explaining a call to them and then it is yes sir or no sir.

i was never real good at leaving the refs alone... i'm amazed i never got t'd up haha

I have told refs a few times in advance, if I start getting a little out of hand, T me up. My team needs to know I am fighting for them. Most referees understand sometimes a coach wants to get T'd up to accomplish something positive for his team. It pisses a coach off more, when a referee does not oblige. I swear Tinkle was trying to get T'd at CSU, and should have. After he did not get T'd, he turned his back and waived his arms, as if he was thinking "the hell with this bullshit".

 

[mtgrizrule]

WOW, we think BSC refs are bad. PAC 12 referees took a game from Colorado against Arizona. Anyone see the call, they fucked Colorado. Game winning 3 hit by Colorado with no time on the clock. They thought he did not get the shot off in time. Replay clearly showed he got the shot off in time. Even after reviewing it in Slo-mo replay, still waived it off.

Colorado has every right in the world to be pissed. I don't believe it!!! Even ESPN analysts are saying, the game was stolen from Colorado by the officials.