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Billy Cockhill

RainierGriz said:
BillingsMafia said:
Could he coach up Patterson? He did Edwards.

You okay? You been on this all day.
Wrong, I've been on this for 15 years. My very first post back 2015 or 16 was on this. Phlugrad could do it and I had hopes on Stitt but Stitt was stuck on that horizontal pass, over and over. He was a big disappointment. This is a fixable problem and its frustrating year after year the offense has no creativity.
 
BillingsMafia said:
RainierGriz said:
You okay? You been on this all day.
Wrong, I've been on this for 15 years. My very first post back 2015 or 16 was on this. Phlugrad could do it and I had hopes on Stitt but Stitt was stuck on that horizontal pass, over and over. He was a big disappointment. This is a fixable problem and its frustrating year after year the offense has no creativity.

What’s the fix? It’s as easy as a better qb coach?
 
RainierGriz said:
BillingsMafia said:
Wrong, I've been on this for 15 years. My very first post back 2015 or 16 was on this. Phlugrad could do it and I had hopes on Stitt but Stitt was stuck on that horizontal pass, over and over. He was a big disappointment. This is a fixable problem and its frustrating year after year the offense has no creativity.

What’s the fix? It’s as easy as a better qb coach?

I haven’t been on this topic for 15 years, but I appreciate your frustration. I understand Hauck’s philosophy - I just don’t agree with it. Adaptability would be the one knock on him as a coach. At least from an offensive standpoint. I just don’t understand how Montana cannot get to the next level offensively. EWU consistently has a potent offense and looks that school and those facilities. Hire a damn offensive coordinator who will get it done. Period
 
While this quarterback thing seems of paramount importance to a majority of the fans on here. I think there is one key person for whom it is not. Bobby Hauck. I am pretty sure he believes that the only way to win and have a dominant sustainable program is to be able to run the ball down the other teams throat until they break. He wants to pass just enough to keep the other team honest. He will run even when it seems silly to do so because he wants to win by smashing you on the ground and he is willing to go through some losses to develop a team that does just that. Even if you are still running the ball up the middle down 20 points or so with less than 10 minutes to go in the game. Even if you are winning the National Championship game at halftime with successful passing to a future NFL receiver, he will go back to trying to the “smash your face in” ground game despite the lead slipping away. I am not saying he is wrong with the premise I am just making the point that maybe an “elite” passing QB is not necessary (though I am sure he would take one) in his mind. Could be wrong but I just have a feeling he wants to run the ball a lot more than he wants pass.
 
cmtgrizzly said:
While this quarterback thing seems of paramount importance to a majority of the fans on here. I think there is one key person for whom it is not. Bobby Hauck. I am pretty sure he believes that the only way to win and have a dominant sustainable program is to be able to run the ball down the other teams throat until they break. He wants to pass just enough to keep the other team honest. He will run even when it seems silly to do so because he wants to win by smashing you on the ground and he is willing to go through some losses to develop a team that does just that. Even if you are still running the ball up the middle down 20 points or so with less than 10 minutes to go in the game. Even if you are winning the National Championship game at halftime with successful passing to a future NFL receiver, he will go back to trying to the “smash your face in” ground game despite the lead slipping away. I am not saying he is wrong with the premise I am just making the point that maybe an “elite” passing QB is not necessary (though I am sure he would take one) in his mind. Could be wrong but I just have a feeling he wants to run the ball a lot more than he wants pass.

No team likes to run you into submission more than NDSU....they also had some pretty elite QB's that helped with the process when defenses knew they couldn't just pack the box. Not sure they could have done that for all those titles without at least a very good one.
 
Ursus1 said:
cmtgrizzly said:
While this quarterback thing seems of paramount importance to a majority of the fans on here. I think there is one key person for whom it is not. Bobby Hauck. I am pretty sure he believes that the only way to win and have a dominant sustainable program is to be able to run the ball down the other teams throat until they break. He wants to pass just enough to keep the other team honest. He will run even when it seems silly to do so because he wants to win by smashing you on the ground and he is willing to go through some losses to develop a team that does just that. Even if you are still running the ball up the middle down 20 points or so with less than 10 minutes to go in the game. Even if you are winning the National Championship game at halftime with successful passing to a future NFL receiver, he will go back to trying to the “smash your face in” ground game despite the lead slipping away. I am not saying he is wrong with the premise I am just making the point that maybe an “elite” passing QB is not necessary (though I am sure he would take one) in his mind. Could be wrong but I just have a feeling he wants to run the ball a lot more than he wants pass.

No team likes to run you into submission more than NDSU....they also had some pretty elite QB's that helped with the process when defenses knew they couldn't just pack the box. Not sure they could have done that for all those titles without at least a very good one.
I doubt we turned any of those QBs away.
 
Trent Dilfer and and Brad Johnson are both Super Bowl champions and they were about the furthest thing from top tier qb talent. It just seems like you are saying a team only goes as far as the qb will take them.

But I’m all for getting the best talent as possible at each position!
 
That would be quite a promotion for Bill Cockhill: from offensive coordinator of the Helena Capital Bruins to OC for the Grizzlies. BTW, his son is a decent but not great wide receiver for Capital---- and they had a mediocre season.
 
That would be quite a promotion for Bill Cockhill: from offensive coordinator of the Helena Capital Bruins to OC for the Grizzlies. BTW, his son is a decent but not great wide receiver for Capital---- and they had a mediocre season.
 
BillingsMafia said:
RainierGriz said:
You okay? You been on this all day.
Wrong, I've been on this for 15 years. My very first post back 2015 or 16 was on this. Phlugrad could do it and I had hopes on Stitt but Stitt was stuck on that horizontal pass, over and over. He was a big disappointment. This is a fixable problem and its frustrating year after year the offense has no creativity.

Your being much too kind.
 
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