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BCS, politician's know scam when they see one!!!

polsongrizz

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Senators Say Football Bowls Need Changes
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By ROBERT GEHRKE, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The Bowl Championship Series shuts out too many schools in its goal of crowning a college football champion and needs to be repaired, senators told representatives of the bowl system Wednesday.


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"I don't know if you guys know how it looks to fans of teams that aren't part of this system," said Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del. "It looks un-American. It really does. It looks unfair. It looks like a rigged deal."


Created in 1998 by the six most powerful college conferences, the BCS guarantees that the champions of those conferences will play in one of the four most lucrative postseason bowl games, leaving only two at-large berths.


Former BYU coach LaVell Edwards said the BCS system also makes it harder for teams outside the alliance to recruit, since there is little chance the players will ever be able to compete for a national championship.


Division I-A football is the only college sport not to have a playoff system.


BYU, which won the national championship in 1984, is the only team other than Notre Dame outside the six BCS conferences to have won a national championship since 1945.


In the 20 years before the BCS started, only one school other than Notre Dame that is not currently in the Big East, ACC, Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 or Pac-10 played in one of the series' four bowls.


Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, a BYU graduate, said the current system raises enough questions of fairness that it is in college football's best interest to fix it instead of forcing Congress to intervene.


NCAA (news - web sites) President Myles Brand said he is open to a system that would be more inclusive, but does not believe that there is a need for radical changes or adoption of a playoff system.


Harvey Perlman, chancellor of the University of Nebraska, said the current system is the fairest way to determine a national champion and provides adequate opportunity for schools outside the BCS to play their way into contention.


A team that finishes in the top 12 of the BCS standings is eligible for consideration, and a team in the top six automatically gets a spot.


And Keith Tribble, chairman of the Football Bowl Association and chief executive officer of the Orange Bowl (news - web sites) Committee, said the bowl games are attracting more fans, benefiting their host communities and generating more money than ever, paying out $800 million in the last five years.


"For the past 90 years, bowl games have been the heart and soul of college football. It has never been healthier," Tribble said.


Tulane President Scott Cowen disagrees. In 1998, the Green Wave went through the season undefeated, but were shut out of the top-tier games. A year later, the same thing happened to Marshall.


"There is no doubt in my mind that the current system is unjust and unjustifiable," said Cowen, who also heads a coalition of more than 50 schools that are not part of the BCS.


This year, TCU is 8-0 but was only 12th in the latest BCS standings and could be shut out of a lucrative bowl.


The projected revenue for the four 2004 BCS games is $118 million, but only about $6 million will go to the non-BCS schools unless one of them qualifies for a major bowl game.





Cowen's group is scheduled to meet with the presidents of the conferences in the BCS system on Nov. 16 to discuss potential changes to the BCS.

"If they are allowed to continue that kind of monopoly, they will suffer the same fate of any other monopoly in the country. They will become bloated, inefficient ... and eventually kill the golden goose," said Sen. Bob Bennett, R-Utah.

Congress has limited options. It could ask the Justice Department (news - web sites) to investigate whether the system violates antitrust laws, or it could try to craft legislation to fix perceived flaws — although how it would do that is unclear.

"We just ought to be careful that we don't let lawyers and politicians stick our nose too much into this," Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions said.

Jim McKeown, an attorney specializing in the sports industry, said the BCS doesn't violate any laws or harm college football. As he sees it, the BCS expanded competition instead of reducing it, a key component of the antitrust law, by creating a national championship game.

"It doesn't necessarily seem to me to be the type of arena where Congress wants to get involved and suddenly become the regulator of college football championships," McKeown said.


I can't believe it would take one of these guys to admit the BCS is the biggest joke in college football. I am sure they make plenty off it.
 
I'd have to agree that bowl games are stupidest thing in college football, were else can a team site out a month and then play for a national championship. They need to formulate the bowl games into a legit playoff system.
 
I'd like to see it changed too... but don't our politicians have enough things to do rather than work on stuff like this??

Hmmm a few things come to mind... Education, Iraq, Terrorists, Federal Deficit... etc etc.

If they get involved I'll be pissed to say the least.
 
Hmm - Orin Hatch of Utah (BYU) says the system is broke but football should fix the problem themselves - sounds like a hint to me - expand Pac 10, take Utah and BYU, and it is no longer a problem for Hatch.
 
"For the past 90 years, bowl games have been the heart and soul of college football. It has never been healthier," Tribble said.

What's he been smoking? Yeah, the Rose Bowl is cool, and so are the few that maych top 10 teams, but who thinks MAC #3 vs. C-USA #4 on a Tuesday afternoon in front of 14,000 people is healthy?
 
GoodGodGriz said:
I'd like to see it changed too... but don't our politicians have enough things to do rather than work on stuff like this??

Hmmm a few things come to mind... Education, Iraq, Terrorists, Federal Deficit... etc etc.

If they get involved I'll be pissed to say the least.

My initial reaction was much the same. But after seeing how much money the BSC schools are getting and prohibiting the other schools from having a chance at i changed my mind.
Millions of dollars go to BSC schools and conferences each year.
What it comes down to if unfair business practices and the whole BSC thing has set itself for an anti-trust investigation. And if the investigators are not told/paid to make a foregone conclusion they will likely find the BSC to be in the wrong.

btw, a Nebraska politician who likes the current BSC(becaue his school gets huge $$) already backed legislation in Nebraska for players to get paid. Which would mean the schools able to pay for the best players would get them. In order for that to go through though, 3 other states with teams in the big12 would have had to pass similar legislation. so far that hasn't happened and won't likely happen.
 
The BSC is lame, no doubt about it. But the funniest thing in that whole article was the quote from that pandering sh*t-pusher Joe Biden (whose constituency is wholly unaffected by the BSC system (Hmmm... Delaware, they might be winning a championship completely independent of the whole BCS). Joe "the best thing for American security is a UN Security Council resolution" Biden calling anyone or anything un-American is sorta the whole pot, kettle, black thing.
 
polsongrizz said:
WASHINGTON - The Bowl Championship Series shuts out too many schools in its goal of crowning a college football champion and needs to be repaired, senators told representatives of the bowl system Wednesday.

DUH.. I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT WHEN I-A IS REFERRED TO AS COLLEGE FOOTBALL. THEY ARE A MINORITY... BIG MINORITY... I-AA, DIV II, DIV III, NAIA, JUCO.... ETAL...


"I don't know if you guys know how it looks to fans of teams that aren't part of this system," said Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del. "It looks un-American. It really does. It looks unfair. It looks like a rigged deal."

IT IS RIGGED... TO BENEFIT THE FEW ELITE AND EXCLUDE THE MAJORITY

Created in 1998 by the six most powerful college conferences, the BCS guarantees that the champions of those conferences will play in one of the four most lucrative postseason bowl games, leaving only two at-large berths.

RIGGED.... SEPARATIONISTS/SEGRAGATIONIST

Former BYU coach LaVell Edwards said the BCS system also makes it harder for teams outside the alliance to recruit, since there is little chance the players will ever be able to compete for a national championship.

HERE WE GO AGAIN... LET THEM GO TO ONE OF THE "REAL" DIVISIONS WHO PLAY FOR PRIDE OF SCHOOL AND OF PERSON..... NOT JUST THE MONEY...


Division I-A football is the only college sport not to have a playoff system.

HELLO.... ANYONE SEE A PROBLEM HERE.... HELLO ARE YOU THERE???


BYU, which won the national championship in 1984, is the only team other than Notre Dame outside the six BCS conferences to have won a national championship since 1945. In the 20 years before the BCS started, only one school other than Notre Dame that is not currently in the Big East, ACC, Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 or Pac-10 played in one of the series' four bowls.

THEN PUT THOSE CONFERENCES INTO A BCS DIVISION BY THEMSELVES AND LET THE REST BE DIV I-A AND A PLAYOFF SYSTEM... THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE HERE....

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, a BYU graduate, said the current system raises enough questions of fairness that it is in college football's best interest to fix it instead of forcing Congress to intervene.

IF YA WANT GOVERNMENT OUT OF IT.... TAKE A CLUE NCAA AND GET YOUR COLLECTIVE BCS HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES AND GET A CLUE...


NCAA (news - web sites) President Myles Brand said he is open to a system that would be more inclusive, but does not believe that there is a need for radical changes or adoption of a playoff system.

DUH... WONDER HOW MUCH HIS "CUT" IS FROM ALL THE BCS BOWLS...


Harvey Perlman, chancellor of the University of Nebraska, said the current system is the fairest way to determine a national champion and provides adequate opportunity for schools outside the BCS to play their way into contention.

WHAT AN IDIOT... BCS TEAMS WON'T AND DON'T WANT TO SCHEDULE MANY GAMES OUTSIDE THE BCS... WOULDN'T LOOK GOOD WHEN THEY GOT THE ASSES KICKED. IF BCS TEAMS WON'T SCHEDULE NON-BCS TEAMS HOW IS THE HELL ARE THE NON-BCS TEAMS GOING TO PLAY THEIR WAY INTO CONTENTION.... WHAT A BUNCH OF BS....


A team that finishes in the top 12 of the BCS standings is eligible for consideration, and a team in the top six automatically gets a spot.

SO OUT OF 120 OR SO TEAMS THEN REALISTICALLY ONLY 6 GET A SHOT... WHAT A DEAL....


And Keith Tribble, chairman of the Football Bowl Association and chief executive officer of the Orange Bowl (news - web sites) Committee, said the bowl games are attracting more fans, benefiting their host communities and generating more money than ever, paying out $800 million in the last five years.

ALL ABOUT MONEY ISN'T IT... NOT TEAM PRIDE, SCHOOL PRIDE, PERSONAL PRIDE, BUT THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR.... SO GO PLAY YOUR DAMN BCS GAMES AND LEAVE "COLLEGE FOOTBALL" TO TEAMS/SCHOOLS/PLAYERS WHO WANT A FAIR SHOT AT A NC...


"For the past 90 years, bowl games have been the heart and soul of college football. It has never been healthier," Tribble said.

THE BOWL GAMES HAVE BEEN THE HEART AND SOUL OF "I-A" NOT COLLEGE FOOTBALL.... YOU IDIOT!!!! GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS....


Tulane President Scott Cowen disagrees. In 1998, the Green Wave went through the season undefeated, but were shut out of the top-tier games. A year later, the same thing happened to Marshall.

AND THIS IS FAIR, DEMOCRATIC, CIVIL, HUMAN OR IS IT JUST KISS MY ASS, WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT WE WANT AND YOU CAN'T CHANGE A THING BECAUSE WE ARE THE "ELITE" AND YOU CAN'T TOUCH US

"There is no doubt in my mind that the current system is unjust and unjustifiable," said Cowen, who also heads a coalition of more than 50 schools that are not part of the BCS.

YOU GO GUYS... KICK SOME BCS ASS


This year, TCU is 8-0 but was only 12th in the latest BCS standings and could be shut out of a lucrative bowl.

HEY... NOT ONE OF THE ELITE.... WHO COULDN'T CARE LESS WHO TCU IS OR WHAT THEIR RECORD IS.... WHAT IS THE SCORE NOW FOLKS???? BCS 0 COLLEGE FOOTBALL 110..... BCS IS A COMMUNIST PLOT...

The projected revenue for the four 2004 BCS games is $118 million, but only about $6 million will go to the non-BCS schools unless one of them qualifies for a major bowl game.

AND HOW DO THEY QUALIFY FOR A BOWL GAME.... HELL NO ONE KNOWS ..... KEEP THEM IN THE BASEMENT AND FEED THEM SOME BS TO KEEP THEM QUIET.. MAYBE THEY WILL JUST GO AWAY.... WHAT A BUNCY OF POTBELLIED, SELF IMPORTANT ASSHOLES...

"If they are allowed to continue that kind of monopoly, they will suffer the same fate of any other monopoly in the country. They will become bloated, inefficient ... and eventually kill the golden goose," said Sen. Bob Bennett, R-Utah.


AND MORE POWER TO THEM... BRING IT ON SO I CAN SAY I TOLD YOU SO.... SOMETHING LIKE JUST DESSERTS....

"We just ought to be careful that we don't let lawyers and politicians stick our nose too much into this," Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions said.

THEN THE NCAA NEEDS TO REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF NCAA TEAMS IN I-A AND RULE BY MAJORITY.... KICK SOME BCS ASS

Jim McKeown, an attorney specializing in the sports industry, said the BCS doesn't violate any laws or harm college football. As he sees it, the BCS expanded competition instead of reducing it, a key component of the antitrust law, by creating a national championship game.

AND HOW MUCH IS YOUR YEARLY RETAINER FROM THE BCS??? WHO IS THIS BOZO.... MARRIED TO THE MOB AND AN IDIOT

Now I will apologize for the use of inappropriate language, being negative, and "overbearing"... BUT I am so tired of all of college football being ignored because of this idiocy of the BCS. College football belongs to the masses not the elite... money should be shared equally throughout... or create the "elite" BCS division and ignore them... Let the rest of I-A have a playoff system like ALL the rest of football and even I-A basketball..... BCS.... Bigoted Convoluted Shitheads.....
 
Again, I am sorry for that post... I just can't figure out how so many can be so ignorant without being that way on purpose... :mad:
 
GoodGodGriz said:
I'd like to see it changed too... but don't our politicians have enough things to do rather than work on stuff like this??

Hmmm a few things come to mind... Education, Iraq, Terrorists, Federal Deficit... etc etc.

If they get involved I'll be pissed to say the least.

Did you not hear GGG the war is over we won!!! 8)
 
More soldiers have died since the war "ended" than did wall it was going on. They probably have better things to do, but the BCS is a business and it is the governments job to regulates on unfair business tactics and such.
 
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