Barrett - Who Voted for This Jerk?

[griz4life]

It's dishonest of the Missoulian and Barrett to point to UM football as the cause of the subsidy. UM football helps pay for other sports, particularly women's sports. So why isn't Barrett arguing for and end to Title IX? Why isn't he suggesting open tryouts for women's basketball, softball and soccer? Of course you would have to add every men's sport but football to that list, too. But Barrett uses the lone sport in good financial shape to make his point. The Missoulian uses a photo of Bob Stitt with the article with a big subsidy headline to leave headline glancers with the impression that football is a money pit for taxpayers.

 

[UMGriz75]

The Missoulian has not had a good "business" editor for a long time, one that actually looked at city or UM budgets and did analysis over the long term. They fail the ultimate test of journalism, "context," as with the contribution of UM's sport teams to UM and to Missoula, and as well, the disparate impact of Title IX on university budgets. UM produced a pretty good paper on it, got pretty good attention elsewhere. None at UM. I wrote it.

Ah, for the good old days. While doing some research, I ran across the 1952 UM Yearbook. At the last page of this link, did you know that, after the Homecoming Queen and assorted Queenlets, at one time UM had a "PERSHING RIFLE SWEETHEART." She was just after the legendary "Sweetheart of Sigma Chi." At page 222 here: https://archive.org/details/1952SentinelRed.

Yes, UM actually had that. I think it was great.

This needs to be re-instituted.

 

[CFallsGriz]

Engstrom likely realizes that he is the problem, but doesn't know what should be done.

Unfortunately, the Board of Regents inadvertently provided a $500,000 possible bonus if he hangs on. There's another part of "management" here that managed to incentivize incompetence in a big way.

"Big Business" often is criticized, by Lefty's and investors alike, for offering "golden parachutes" -- large incentives -- to inept executives to "just go away." Here's "Big Government's" version: a huge incentive to inept executives to just hang on and keep spreading the damage. Lefty's like Barrett don't utter a peep about how twisted and damaging this is in this instance.

*Lefties

Or is it Lefty's...what?

If ol' 75 is beginning to conflate pluralism with ownership, what (or whom) do we really have 'left?' The bastion of our great institution is slipping...

Merry Christmas, douch**b*ags!

I kid, I kid. Lock this damn thing already. And now it's back to the Johnny... :thumb:

 

[Umista]

Left or right?

Left wants your money for the good of the order. Of course he will spend it on his order.

Right loves to make money and hates left for swiping it from him.

Barrett? Fruit cake anyone?

 

[UMGriz75]

And he says the proposed cuts are coming in direct response to the changes that have driven UM enrollment down by roughly 2,000 students over the last few years.

"We enjoyed quite a surge in enrollment during the years from 2007 to 2012, somewhat dependent upon the economy I believe. And so we staffed up during that time to make sure we had the proper number of people associated with a student body of in excess of 15,000 students," Engstrom said.

"Well, now we have a student body closer to 13-thousand and so we need to make adjustments so that our workforce is proportionate to the students we have here on campus," he added.

Engstrom says the budget cuts, which would impact as many as 200 jobs, and more than 50 faculty positions, are the effort to adjust for those downward drops in available students.

He says it's not much different than enrollment cycles of the past, especially those tied to the continued ripple effect caused by World War II, the Baby Boom and now the end of the "Baby Boomlet", where the grandchild of those veterans are done with school…

http://www.kpax.com/story/30828937/enrollment-fluctuations-key-to-um-budget-pressures

No, it is quite different than enrollment cycles in the past, because those cycles affected all universities.

 

[UMGriz75]

Missoulian article today suggests that Engstrom is actually the Regent's fair-haired boy, just doing their bidding.

http://missoulian.com/news/local/board-of-regents-play-role-in-struggle-at-um/article_1c74ed0c-95b0-570b-9233-b24fc150592a.html

 

[Spanky]

Clay Christian getting a $445,000 bonus! This is white collar crime, folks!! Looks like UM is going to be a trade school....carpenters, brick layers, etc.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Dont worry, I commented back to the Gazette on face book that the title of this story was completely biased and misleading, and that the UofM really is the only school in the BSC that holds its own weight for funding of its athletice.....they appologized and LITERALLY CHANGED THE HEADING on their fb article.

 

[grizatwork]

If you can't see the benefit of athletics to enrollment and the relevancy of a school, look no further than the College(University) of Great Falls. They cut their extremely successful basketball program and fell off the face of the earth. They hired a president who got it and restored basketball as well as add wrestling, soccer, lacrosse, volleyball and cross country. As a result, enrollment is up in this private expensive school. They are no longer a non-traditional/air force spouse college. They have young students from all over the state coming to try to extend their careers. They have a significant foreign student population that come for soccer.

Any further damage to the UM's athletic programs would only further decrease our enrollment problem. Lets try addition by addition instead of addition by subtraction for a change.

 

[UMGriz75]

Your subsidies may be going up sharply with declining enrollment. MSU meanwhile is going in the complete opposite direction.

The subsidy is what is necessary, when taken with athletic department revenue, to meet the expenses. "Athletic Department Revenue" would have to "decline sharply," and appears to be independent of enrollment.

Since 2012, "earned revenue" from Athletic programs at UM have decreased by approximately $400,000, whereas MSU's have fallen by nearly $2.2 million.

The largest UM subsidy over the past five years has been $8.6 million, the largest MSU subsidy was $14.5 million.

Over the past five years, MSU has received nearly $17 million more in overall subsidies for athletics than UM.

http://chronicle.com/interactives/ncaa-subsidies-main#id=table_2014

 

[UMGriz75]

All Big Sky Schools

Athletics revenue
Subsidy %, Subsidy amount, Program revenue

Northern Arizona University
Arizona Big Sky Conference 78.5% $11,956,387 $15,235,528

Southern Utah University
Utah Big Sky Conference 75.1% $7,961,064 $10,598,596

Portland State University
Oregon Big Sky Conference 74.9% $10,041,697 $13,402,378

University of Northern Colorado
Colorado Big Sky Conference 72.6% $9,688,815 $13,339,533

Eastern Washington University
Washington Big Sky Conference 71.2% $9,153,007 $12,858,386

Weber State University
Utah Big Sky Conference 66.4% $8,883,487 $13,377,335

Idaho State University
Idaho Big Sky Conference 59.8% $7,476,288 $12,503,225

Montana State University at Bozeman
Montana Big Sky Conference 56.2% $10,561,845 $18,787,426

University of North Dakota
North Dakota Big Sky Conference 56.1% $13,357,249 $23,815,870

University of Idaho
Idaho Big Sky Conference 49.6% $9,381,453 $18,920,916

University of Montana at Missoula
Montana Big Sky Conference 41.9% $8,642,945 $20,600,000

Selected schools from the Pac 12

University of California at Los Angeles
California Pacific-12 Conference 3.1% $2,711,272 $86,426,780

University of Colorado at Boulder
Colorado Pacific-12 Conference 19.0% $12,209,473 $64,226,758

University of Oregon
Oregon Pacific-12 Conference 1.1% $2,155,099 $196,030,398

University of Utah
Utah Pacific-12 Conference 17.5% $9,862,106 $56,470,310

University of Washington
Washington Pacific-12 Conference 3.5% $3,549,679 $100,275,187

 

[UMGriz75]

Missouri Valley Conference

Illinois State University
Illinois Missouri Valley Conference 70.0% $15,112,785 $21,587,420

Indiana State University
Indiana Missouri Valley Conference 72.8% $10,075,797 $13,847,014

Missouri State University
Missouri Missouri Valley Conference 59.4% $8,965,530 $15,105,167

Southern Illinois University at Carbondale
Illinois Missouri Valley Conference 62.5% $13,651,984 $21,847,326

University of Northern Iowa
Iowa Missouri Valley Conference 49.9% $8,464,481 $16,966,524

Wichita State University
Kansas Missouri Valley Conference 30.7% $7,514,236 $24,481,122

 

[Grizzlies1982]

All Big Sky Schools

Athletics revenue
Subsidy %, Subsidy amount, Program revenue

Montana State University at Bozeman
Montana Big Sky Conference 56.2% $10,561,845 $18,787,426

University of North Dakota
North Dakota Big Sky Conference 56.1% $13,357,249 $23,815,870

University of Idaho
Idaho Big Sky Conference 49.6% $9,381,453 $18,920,916

University of Montana at Missoula
Montana Big Sky Conference 41.9% $8,642,945 $20,600,000

Selected schools from the Pac 12

University of California at Los Angeles
California Pacific-12 Conference 3.1% $2,711,272 $86,426,780

University of Colorado at Boulder
Colorado Pacific-12 Conference 19.0% $12,209,473 $64,226,758

University of Oregon
Oregon Pacific-12 Conference 1.1% $2,155,099 $196,030,398

University of Utah
Utah Pacific-12 Conference 17.5% $9,862,106 $56,470,310

University of Washington
Washington Pacific-12 Conference 3.5% $3,549,679 $100,275,187

Wow!
I know they've had the benefit of Nike dollars for decades. Yet the Univ. of Oregon has an athletics budget of nearly $200 million?????

That is unbelievable. What the hell do they spend that much on?

 

[biga75]

Grizzlies1982
Wow!
I know they've had the benefit of Nike dollars for decades. Yet the Univ. of Oregon has an athletics budget of nearly $200 million?????

That is unbelievable. What the hell do they spend that much on?