A good preview of UM's assessment of programs

[argh!]

i've written plenty on my disdain for tenure, even though i have been given it at two universities. however, it exists and the street needs to go both ways. if bodnar does too much bypassing the faculty in his decision making, and/or takes the 'my way or the highway' approach, what will happen is that the good professors, i.e. those who can generate grant money, will leave, and um will be stuck with the unhappy campers who can't. good luck rebuilding your university with them.

also, i'd say about 66% of the professors i know work 50 - 70 hours a week. the other 34% work 10 - 15 hours a week. blanket statements about faculty, i.e. they are all lazy entitled etc etc, paint the majority in an inaccurate light.

Yeah, what we really need is the inmates running the asylum.

don't get upset az, that's just how it goes.

See that’s part of your problem...you think “that’s how it goes” when it most decidedly is NOT how it goes in any successful real world application.

that is just how it is. i didn't say it shouldn't change. hell, if i were in charge of the world, tenure would be gone within a week (there would probably be more important things to do first), as would much of the current university administrative structure. etc etc

 

[kemajic]

Yes, and the denial that there are similarities to a failing business is obvious in this thread. Argh. Keep producing a high cost product that is decreasing in demand. Be surprised when customers aren't buying. Expect government subsidies that aren't going to come. Resist reducing cost and changing product offerings to increase demand. This is what Bodnar has to deal with in a nutshell. Yes, a path to success is cloudy, but obstacles in the way of new avenues are indefensible.

maybe i'm getting older and more senile, but i can't quite figure out what the hell you are trying to say with this missive. i guess it makes you feel better to accuse university professors of being dumb? assuming you are as old and senile as your posts indicate, you are probably still alive because of the discoveries of university professors.

oh, i forgot tired. lacking in energy to help the university you claim to love, as long as the football coach is acceptable to you.

When all else fails, play the age card. That always seals an argument win.

 

[Copper Griz]

Yes, and the denial that there are similarities to a failing business is obvious in this thread. Argh. Keep producing a high cost product that is decreasing in demand. Be surprised when customers aren't buying. Expect government subsidies that aren't going to come. Resist reducing cost and changing product offerings to increase demand. This is what Bodnar has to deal with in a nutshell. Yes, a path to success is cloudy, but obstacles in the way of new avenues are indefensible.

maybe i'm getting older and more senile, but i can't quite figure out what the hell you are trying to say with this missive. i guess it makes you feel better to accuse university professors of being dumb? assuming you are as old and senile as your posts indicate, you are probably still alive because of the discoveries of university professors.

oh, i forgot tired. lacking in energy to help the university you claim to love, as long as the football coach is acceptable to you.

When all else fails, play the age card. That always seals an argument win.

I found the first part of your post intriguing and sadly, pretty accurate. Are you saying that UM has been producing a high cost product that is not in demand or is your contention that the U of M has to increase the quality of the product to increase demand? No being a smartass. Just trying to track with you. The state as a whole has some potential challenges on the horizon with football.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Yes, and the denial that there are similarities to a failing business is obvious in this thread. Argh. Keep producing a high cost product that is decreasing in demand. Be surprised when customers aren't buying. Expect government subsidies that aren't going to come. Resist reducing cost and changing product offerings to increase demand. This is what Bodnar has to deal with in a nutshell. Yes, a path to success is cloudy, but obstacles in the way of new avenues are indefensible.

maybe i'm getting older and more senile, but i can't quite figure out what the hell you are trying to say with this missive. i guess it makes you feel better to accuse university professors of being dumb? assuming you are as old and senile as your posts indicate, you are probably still alive because of the discoveries of university professors.

oh, i forgot tired. lacking in energy to help the university you claim to love, as long as the football coach is acceptable to you.

When all else fails, play the age card. That always seals an argument win.

I found the first part of your post intriguing and sadly, pretty accurate. Are you saying that UM has been producing a high cost product that is not in demand or is your contention that the U of M has to increase the quality of the product to increase demand? No being a smartass. Just trying to track with you. The state as a whole has some potential challenges on the horizon with football.

The answer is both.

 

[billings_poke]

for some students looking at certain majors this has to make them 2nd guess um as a choice. tough spot


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[argh!]

Yes, and the denial that there are similarities to a failing business is obvious in this thread. Argh. Keep producing a high cost product that is decreasing in demand. Be surprised when customers aren't buying. Expect government subsidies that aren't going to come. Resist reducing cost and changing product offerings to increase demand. This is what Bodnar has to deal with in a nutshell. Yes, a path to success is cloudy, but obstacles in the way of new avenues are indefensible.

maybe i'm getting older and more senile, but i can't quite figure out what the hell you are trying to say with this missive. i guess it makes you feel better to accuse university professors of being dumb? assuming you are as old and senile as your posts indicate, you are probably still alive because of the discoveries of university professors.

oh, i forgot tired. lacking in energy to help the university you claim to love, as long as the football coach is acceptable to you.

When all else fails, play the age card. That always seals an argument win.

vincent van gogh, go mail that ear.