300 Yards Rushing For NDSU Is The Statistic that Counts

[griz5700]

Griz have to keep them under 200 yds rushing, throw for over 300, and win the +/-.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

'I only lose credibility with Mr. Dill because HE thinks that the secondary sucks, and honestly, the only reason he thinks that is because Alpha has said the secondary suck for the last how many ever years.

But, to answer your question Growler, here are my reasons I think the secondary is a strength of the Griz. 1. They return two senior all-conference starters in Whitted and Harris. 2. Nelson has a ton of in-game experience and is one of the fastest players on the team, and he has big hands and great ball catching skills. He'll snag some picks this season. 3. Yamen Sanders is probably the best backup safety in all of college football and would easily start for every team in the Big Sky, so that says a lot about how Manu Rasmussen is playing. 4. They have performed at an extrmely high level in practice, and as a unit, have a lot of chemistry and good communication out there on the field.

So there, that four reasons why I think they're a strength. You always ask people to keep it to JUST FOOTBALL talk on this board, and I just did so lets see how you respond.

Let's be straight Hav. Alpha and Growler say that the secondary sucks in comparison to Griz secondary's of years past. There isn't, now nor has there been in three years or so, players like Tru, Colt, Shillinger(sp?), Thompson etc. I think that's their point. Not that Rasmussen, Sanders or Nelson can't become good shortly. These players just don't measure up right now. You can argue with their position but there's is a fair position to have IMO. Until a Griz secondary shuts down Eastern's passing attack, there will be questions about it. The Griz secondary has struggled against the athletic receivers from Eastern for three years now....

 

[George Ferguson]

CV, you make good points, but I hate to tell you this, but the last thee years are NOT the only years the Griz' secondary have struggled with Eastern Washington's passing attack. Teams with Colt Anderson back there definitely did NOT shut down EWU's passing attack. The Eags have put up some big passing numbers on the Griz in more than just the last three years! The difference is whether or not the Griz got the W, and in the years past, they have come away with those W's more often than not. But to say, in Colt's time or Tru's time or whatever other secondaries that essentially weren't coached by Delaney didn't struggle with EWU's offense is simply not accurate.

 

[AZGrizFan]

'I only lose credibility with Mr. Dill because HE thinks that the secondary sucks, and honestly, the only reason he thinks that is because Alpha has said the secondary suck for the last how many ever years.

But, to answer your question Growler, here are my reasons I think the secondary is a strength of the Griz. 1. They return two senior all-conference starters in Whitted and Harris. 2. Nelson has a ton of in-game experience and is one of the fastest players on the team, and he has big hands and great ball catching skills. He'll snag some picks this season. 3. Yamen Sanders is probably the best backup safety in all of college football and would easily start for every team in the Big Sky, so that says a lot about how Manu Rasmussen is playing. 4. They have performed at an extrmely high level in practice, and as a unit, have a lot of chemistry and good communication out there on the field.

So there, that four reasons why I think they're a strength. You always ask people to keep it to JUST FOOTBALL talk on this board, and I just did so lets see how you respond.

Let's be straight Hav. Alpha and Growler say that the secondary sucks in comparison to Griz secondary's of years past. There isn't, now nor has there been in three years or so, players like Tru, Colt, Shillinger(sp?), Thompson etc. I think that's their point. Not that Rasmussen, Sanders or Nelson can't become good shortly. These players just don't measure up right now. You can argue with their position but there's is a fair position to have IMO. Until a Griz secondary shuts down Eastern's passing attack, there will be questions about it. The Griz secondary has struggled against the athletic receivers from Eastern for three years now....

Growler's definition of "sucking" is not having NFL level talent at every position. His definition of "bad" is not winning the national title every year. That's not a "fair position", it's fantasy-land.

 

[PlayerRep]

CV, you make good points, but I hate to tell you this, but the last thee years are NOT the only years the Griz' secondary have struggled with Eastern Washington's passing attack. Teams with Colt Anderson back there definitely did NOT shut down EWU's passing attack. The Eags have put up some big passing numbers on the Griz in more than just the last three years! The difference is whether or not the Griz got the W, and in the years past, they have come away with those W's more often than not. But to say, in Colt's time or Tru's time or whatever other secondaries that essentially weren't coached by Delaney didn't struggle with EWU's offense is simply not accurate.

CV may have made good points, but they're not accurate. Alpha and Growler/AtlG1 have said the secondary sucks, is weak, is bad, etc. on multiple occasions.

 

[bgbigdog]

Personally, I like to use the score as a yardstick...

As usual, a voice of reason.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

'I only lose credibility with Mr. Dill because HE thinks that the secondary sucks, and honestly, the only reason he thinks that is because Alpha has said the secondary suck for the last how many ever years.

But, to answer your question Growler, here are my reasons I think the secondary is a strength of the Griz. 1. They return two senior all-conference starters in Whitted and Harris. 2. Nelson has a ton of in-game experience and is one of the fastest players on the team, and he has big hands and great ball catching skills. He'll snag some picks this season. 3. Yamen Sanders is probably the best backup safety in all of college football and would easily start for every team in the Big Sky, so that says a lot about how Manu Rasmussen is playing. 4. They have performed at an extrmely high level in practice, and as a unit, have a lot of chemistry and good communication out there on the field.

So there, that four reasons why I think they're a strength. You always ask people to keep it to JUST FOOTBALL talk on this board, and I just did so lets see how you respond.

Let's be straight Hav. Alpha and Growler say that the secondary sucks in comparison to Griz secondary's of years past. There isn't, now nor has there been in three years or so, players like Tru, Colt, Shillinger(sp?), Thompson etc. I think that's their point. Not that Rasmussen, Sanders or Nelson can't become good shortly. These players just don't measure up right now. You can argue with their position but there's is a fair position to have IMO. Until a Griz secondary shuts down Eastern's passing attack, there will be questions about it. The Griz secondary has struggled against the athletic receivers from Eastern for three years now....

Growler's definition of "sucking" is not having NFL level talent at every position. His definition of "bad" is not winning the national title every year. That's not a "fair position", it's fantasy-land.

Don't quote me, because you always mis-quote me in your desperate and rather pathetic attempt to be relevant

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

Please. What evidence do you have to proclaim that the Griz secondary is a strength of the team? Because of a couple of intra-squad scrimmages? Hell, three of the four of them are new starters this year. You have no clue as to how they will perform in real-game situations. Our safeties are weak in pass coverage. You lose credibility when you make these statements. Now if you say that our young secondary has the POTENTIAL to be a strength of the team, I'll give you that. I think our CBs can be very good. Our young safety is only a frosh, and has great potential to be very good. But to anoint them already before the season is a huge stretch.

Let's break that down:

Hell, three of the four of them are new starters this year.

False, 2 of 4 are, Whitted and Harris started last year. Nelson was also our nickel corner but not a starter per se.

You have no clue as to how they will perform in real-game situations.

The crux of every college football team that has new starters. Did you know NDSU is breaking in 7 new defensive starters? They'll have the same concerns.

Our safeties are weak in pass coverage

They haven't been so far, you're just guessing and basing it off... uh... I don't know honestly because in the scrimmages they've been pretty good.

Now if you say that our young secondary has the POTENTIAL to be a strength of the team, I'll give you that. I think our CBs can be very good. Our young safety is only a frosh, and has great potential to be very good.

Agreed on the potential side, I like this secondary. However, young?

Nate Harris - RS senior
Justin Whited - RS senior
Manu Rasmussen - RS Frosh
JR Nelson - RS Junior

and for depth:

Ryan McKinley - RS Soph
Eric Johnson - Senior
Yamen Sanders - RS Junior
Markell Sanders - RS Freshman

So... 5 of 8 in a guestimate 2-deep are upperclassmen with 3 being seniors. That's young? Ever think Rasmussen is starting as a red shirt freshman because he's pretty damn good?

You lose credibility when you make these statements.

Oh Steve...

Wally World strikes again! Oh Brinty, you try way too hard to coat everything with fructose. Harris has never been very good, and the only reason he started in the past is that he was the best we had, which shows you just how weak were were. Whited has never lived up to the hype around him. yes, he lays the wood on RBs a couple times each game, which causes pedestrian fans like you to laud him as being good. you seem to discount (or forget) the many pass plays he gives up because he is out of position. He ain't no Trey Young, McEmurry, Huntsburgery, Shillinger, Anderson, et. al. He is way below that level. But he impresses you, so your lemmings will keep satisfied that all is well with our safeties.

I suggest you save the keystrokes in your lame-assed attempts to discredit me with your baseless rhetoric. And no, I never make my comments based on what Alpha, or anyone else thinks. You should know better, but you have an agenda and terminal face-saving to uphold. We get it, dude! Continue.

 

[brewskis]

If NDSU really does plan on passing their way to wins this year....that's awesome for the MV, because I'm betting they will likely drop 2 or more in conference that way.

If we can get them behind schedule and force them into 3rd and long, I think we are in good shape defensively. Red zone defense will be key as well.

For our statistic, if we have a rusher with over 100 yards I'd say we win.

 

[Sam A. Blitz]

AtlantaGriz, stop embarrassing yourself. You make vary vague and out of your ass statements. Pretty evident you have never played a down of football. BW's "sugary" statement are actually much more football relevant than your sour drivel.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

AtlantaGriz, stop embarrassing yourself. You make vary vague and out of your ass statements. Pretty evident you have never played a down of football. BW's "sugary" statement are actually much more football relevant than your sour drivel.

 

[bgbigdog]

Stats wise, here is what's most important:

If you win the explosiveness battle (using PPP), you win 86 percent of the time. (Number of plays of 20 yards or more).
If you win the efficency battle (using Success Rate), you win 83 percent of the time. (Stitt's focus)
If you win the drive-finishing battle (using points per trip inside the 40), you win 75 percent of the time. (Stitt's next milestone)
If you win the field position battle (using average starting field position), you win 72 percent of the time.
If you win the turnover battle (using turnover margin), you win 73 percent of the time.

Simple...

 

[CV Griz Fan]

If NDSU really does plan on passing their way to wins this year....that's awesome for the MV, because I'm betting they will likely drop 2 or more in conference that way.

If we can get them behind schedule and force them into 3rd and long, I think we are in good shape defensively. Red zone defense will be key as well.

For our statistic, if we have a rusher with over 100 yards I'd say we win.

Actually, that's a great point. Last year
Canada had 48 yard rushing
Van had -4

 

[brewskis]

If NDSU really does plan on passing their way to wins this year....that's awesome for the MV, because I'm betting they will likely drop 2 or more in conference that way.

If we can get them behind schedule and force them into 3rd and long, I think we are in good shape defensively. Red zone defense will be key as well.

For our statistic, if we have a rusher with over 100 yards I'd say we win.

Actually, that's a great point. Last year
Canada had 48 yard rushing
Van had -4

It will definitely be a "pass to set up the run" situation, but we will really need to capitalize when they drop extra guys to cover Ellis and Jamaal.