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3-3-5 Zone Concepts

SoldierGriz

SoldierGriz

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In the Griz 3-3-5, do they use more match drop or spot drop coverages??

Asking because I don't think the Griz are generating enough interceptions on defense...

I could be wrong, but I think they should use more frequent match schemes to jump more routes.

Seems they play more spot zone to keep everything in front of them and make the opponent earn yards.

Any coaches out there with insights?
 
Short memory. 2021 Nine picks, eight straight game, two pick sixes, all from one cornerback, and all in a defense designed to funnel the ball carrier/receiver to the coaches' kid. Of course, teams didn't throw much his way last year.
 
Hopefully 3 3 5 is history...
Kid is gone with the record.
Need a D situationally designed to win games.
 
SoldierGriz said:
In the Griz 3-3-5, do they use more match drop or spot drop coverages??

Asking because I don't think the Griz are generating enough interceptions on defense...

I could be wrong, but I think they should use more frequent match schemes to jump more routes.

Seems they play more spot zone to keep everything in front of them and make the opponent earn yards.

Any coaches out there with insights?
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Just like 4-3 or 3-4 each team runs different covererages based on who they are playing etc . I don't think you are tied to one or the other based on the front you run. I think more teams are running cover 4 (which I think is what you mean by match zone) than traditional drop coverages like cover 2 or cover 3. I would guess that the Griz played a lot more of Cover 4 (match zone) because of where they have been exploited the last couple of years....intermediate routes (fewer players covering those routes than in drops) and defending alley runs. But the Griz have been pretty good not giving up deep balls and covering the slants and screens etc. A lot depends on the formation they come out in..Cover 4 (match zone) is great against trips and spread teams but Cover 2 is great against heavy sets. So I would guess the Griz have the ability to check into multiple coverages based on what formation teams come out in. But Griz coaches spend hours breaking down film to determine that. I am only speculating but I would guess that we could see more multiple looks in the secondary with a secondary guy running the show. It is the nature of who is calling the shots. I am sure Bradford has ran some things in his stops that he is itching to run with the Griz.
 
UncleRico said:
SoldierGriz said:
In the Griz 3-3-5, do they use more match drop or spot drop coverages??

Asking because I don't think the Griz are generating enough interceptions on defense...

I could be wrong, but I think they should use more frequent match schemes to jump more routes.

Seems they play more spot zone to keep everything in front of them and make the opponent earn yards.

Any coaches out there with insights?
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Just like 4-3 or 3-4 each team runs different covererages based on who they are playing etc . I don't think you are tied to one or the other based on the front you run. I think more teams are running cover 4 (which I think is what you mean by match zone) than traditional drop coverages like cover 2 or cover 3. I would guess that the Griz played a lot more of Cover 4 (match zone) because of where they have been exploited the last couple of years....intermediate routes (fewer players covering those routes than in drops) and defending alley runs. But the Griz have been pretty good not giving up deep balls and covering the slants and screens etc. A lot depends on the formation they come out in..Cover 4 (match zone) is great against trips and spread teams but Cover 2 is great against heavy sets. So I would guess the Griz have the ability to check into multiple coverages based on what formation teams come out in. But Griz coaches spend hours breaking down film to determine that. I am only speculating but I would guess that we could see more multiple looks in the secondary with a secondary guy running the show. It is the nature of who is calling the shots. I am sure Bradford has ran some things in his stops that he is itching to run with the Griz.
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Hope you are correct on Bradford...wondering how he will convert match vs spot in 3-3-5. This is the key to generating interceptions.
 
I know he's had a couple of quiet seasons on that front, but something tells me A Gub is going to break out of his interecption slump in 2023.
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
Short memory. 2021 Nine picks, eight straight game, two pick sixes, all from one cornerback, and all in a defense designed to funnel the ball carrier/receiver to the coaches' kid. Of course, teams didn't throw much his way last year.
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2021 is so 3 seasons ago
 
Fahque said:
horribilisfan8184 said:
Short memory. 2021 Nine picks, eight straight game, two pick sixes, all from one cornerback, and all in a defense designed to funnel the ball carrier/receiver to the coaches' kid. Of course, teams didn't throw much his way last year.
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2021 is so 3 seasons ago
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Damn! Is the 2024 season over already!? Holy
s h i t time flys!
 
alabamagrizzly said:
Fahque said:
2021 is so 3 seasons ago
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Damn! Is the 2024 season over already!? Holy
s h i t time flys!
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Well, it is the 2023 season technically (even if it is just about to enter into the spring ball) so that would be the current season or season 1, 2022 would be last season so that would be season 2, and 2021 would be season 3… So yes, the third season in the past :lol:
 
Fahque said:
alabamagrizzly said:
Damn! Is the 2024 season over already!? Holy
s h i t time flys!
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Well, it is the 2023 season technically (even if it is just about to enter into the spring ball) so that would be the current season or season 1, 2022 would be last season so that would be season 2, and 2021 would be season 3… So yes, the third season in the past :lol:
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I was told there’d be no math.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Fahque said:
Well, it is the 2023 season technically (even if it is just about to enter into the spring ball) so that would be the current season or season 1, 2022 would be last season so that would be season 2, and 2021 would be season 3… So yes, the third season in the past :lol:
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I was told there’d be no math.
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I believe it’s common core math which isn’t real math so technically no, there’s no math, just made up math😊.
 
mtgrizrule said:
alabamagrizzly said:
Damn! Is the 2024 season over already!? Holy
s h i t time flys!
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Hell Yeah, no more Brandon! Lol
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Listen Jack. Brandon is a first team all American flankerback with a bright future in the NFL. Too bad we couldn't utilize him.
 
PhxGriz said:
mtgrizrule said:
Hell Yeah, no more Brandon! Lol
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Listen Jack. Brandon is a first team all American flankerback with a bright future in the NFL. Too bad we couldn't utilize him.
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Don't forget, his parents are from 2 different Native American tribes. Growing up he became an expert archer and gunslinger. He got his athletic coaching from Jim Thorpe.
 
SoldierGriz said:
UncleRico said:
Just like 4-3 or 3-4 each team runs different covererages based on who they are playing etc . I don't think you are tied to one or the other based on the front you run. I think more teams are running cover 4 (which I think is what you mean by match zone) than traditional drop coverages like cover 2 or cover 3. I would guess that the Griz played a lot more of Cover 4 (match zone) because of where they have been exploited the last couple of years....intermediate routes (fewer players covering those routes than in drops) and defending alley runs. But the Griz have been pretty good not giving up deep balls and covering the slants and screens etc. A lot depends on the formation they come out in..Cover 4 (match zone) is great against trips and spread teams but Cover 2 is great against heavy sets. So I would guess the Griz have the ability to check into multiple coverages based on what formation teams come out in. But Griz coaches spend hours breaking down film to determine that. I am only speculating but I would guess that we could see more multiple looks in the secondary with a secondary guy running the show. It is the nature of who is calling the shots. I am sure Bradford has ran some things in his stops that he is itching to run with the Griz.
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Hope you are correct on Bradford...wondering how he will convert match vs spot in 3-3-5. This is the key to generating interceptions.
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I would say the key to INTS is that put the offense in situations where they throw into more dynamic coverages. Last year most the offenses wouldn’t even think about throwing to one side unless it was a key route concept. More often teams took the under route than years previous. This allows less opportunity for a INT. Also we did not tackle or rally to the ball as well as we needed too. This allowed teams with more dynamic play makers to take advantage of that and caused us difficultly getting off the field and forcing longer passing downs. Again resulting in less INTS even when we had a positive result. It was clear we had some gaps last year that we just couldn’t fill. We didn’t perform to expectation in various areas and thus it lead to less INTS. I don’t think it had to do with the backend coverage scheme as much as just our weaknesses and teams abilities to attack them
 
mtgrizfankb said:
SoldierGriz said:
Hope you are correct on Bradford...wondering how he will convert match vs spot in 3-3-5. This is the key to generating interceptions.
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I would say the key to INTS is that put the offense in situations where they throw into more dynamic coverages. Last year most the offenses wouldn’t even think about throwing to one side unless it was a key route concept. More often teams took the under route than years previous. This allows less opportunity for a INT. Also we did not tackle or rally to the ball as well as we needed too. This allowed teams with more dynamic play makers to take advantage of that and caused us difficultly getting off the field and forcing longer passing downs. Again resulting in less INTS even when we had a positive result. It was clear we had some gaps last year that we just couldn’t fill. We didn’t perform to expectation in various areas and thus it lead to less INTS. I don’t think it had to do with the backend coverage scheme as much as just our weaknesses and teams abilities to attack them
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Maybe, but schemes do matter. Playing match at the "right" times is the key to speeding the game up in the eyes of the QB, which forces mistakes. That's the key. If the QB gets comfortable with spot the game slows and his completion percentage rises.

This is what the defensive analyst in a 3-3-5 scheme has to produce for the D coordinator.
 
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