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2014 Weekly Position Discussion, week 1 - Quarterback

mtgrizrule said:
Can we discuss QB depth here? Or will it be discussed when we get to the other positions?

I really want to see a lot of Gustafson and Simis in fall camp to get an idea how our future looks at qb. We know what JJ and SSH are. I do hope the staff takes the reigns off JJ and let him loose. I expect a big year from him. Statistically, hope he has a year similar to last season in TD's to Interceptions.

If the coaches will mix in more quick passes into the strategy and actually do it, the offense will be terrific all season. If they don't, the offense/JJ will do great against average or worse opponents, and will struggle against better teams.
No! Fuck off!
 
Ursa Major said:
mtgrizrule said:
Can we discuss QB depth here? Or will it be discussed when we get to the other positions?

I really want to see a lot of Gustafson and Simis in fall camp to get an idea how our future looks at qb. We know what JJ and SSH are. I do hope the staff takes the reigns off JJ and let him loose. I expect a big year from him. Statistically, hope he has a year similar to last season in TD's to Interceptions.

If the coaches will mix in more quick passes into the strategy and actually do it, the offense will be terrific all season. If they don't, the offense/JJ will do great against average or worse opponents, and will struggle against better teams.
No! Fuck off!

POTY nominee. Bookmark it.
 
My prediction is that people are going to be very pleasantly surprised about how well JJ has command and comfort in the offense this year and that fewer of you will be bit*hing about the playcalling.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
Ursa Major said:
mtgrizrule said:
Can we discuss QB depth here? Or will it be discussed when we get to the other positions?

I really want to see a lot of Gustafson and Simis in fall camp to get an idea how our future looks at qb. We know what JJ and SSH are. I do hope the staff takes the reigns off JJ and let him loose. I expect a big year from him. Statistically, hope he has a year similar to last season in TD's to Interceptions.

If the coaches will mix in more quick passes into the strategy and actually do it, the offense will be terrific all season. If they don't, the offense/JJ will do great against average or worse opponents, and will struggle against better teams.
No! Fuck off!

POTY nominee. Bookmark it.

I will try. I was heavily over-served this evening. The legacy and the tyranny of the Pour Street Boyz has no bounds. They haunt me 500 miles away.
 
Sam A. Blitz said:
My prediction is that people are going to be very pleasantly surprised about how well JJ has command and comfort in the offense this year and that fewer of you will be bit*hing about the playcalling.

You may very well be right, but I predict there will be no lessening of the bitching.
 
Ursa Major said:
getgrizzy said:
Ursa Major said:
I don't know about the rest of you douche bags but I still miss the JJ of late 2011. More so the scheme of 2011. He was in total command of the field. The last third of that season was just beauty in motion with JJ running the spread option offense like a finely tuned big block with an oversized cam. The hurt they put on NIU in the playoffs. I know it's not coming back but goddamn it, that was a beautiful thing to watch. Twenty years from now, when someone mentions JJ, I will think of those handful of games.
no you don't miss that. unless you mean the last two games of the season.

the last third (four games) of the season he went 65-109-3 for 772 and 8 td. 7.1 per attempt. 137.8 qbr. 193 yards per game.
last year (13 games) he went 220-338-5 for 3,387 and 32 td. 8.7 per attempt. 154.7 qbr. 260 yards per game.

of course people want to throw in the weber game when they talk about j.j.'s finish. he had a great game that day, but was pedestrian the next three games against western oregon, m.s.u. and c.a.u. in those three games he went 42-72-2 402 yards 4 tds and ran for 58 yards on 13 carries and no tds. that's a qbr of 118. when you take j.j.'s worst three statistical games of 2013, they don't have a qbr anywhere near that low. his worst three were nau, sodak and oklapanhandle and he was 136.7, which is nearly as good as the last third of 2011 where he went 137.8.

he may have been a better runner in 2011, but he also took a beating. i'll concede that a player can get hurt on any play, but its no secret that the more you run your q.b. the more hits he takes and more likely he is to get hurt.
GG,
I think you missed the point of my post. You're talking about science and I'm talking about art. It's the style of offense that I miss. Watching JJ run the read option was something special. Akin to listening to beautiful music. JJ's timing and reaction of that play is predicated on the defensive end's movement. Watching that offense run that play was pure poetry in motion, refined by timing, quick decision making and athletic ability. For me it beats the hell out of an offensive scheme of a sweep right for 3 yards, a sweep left for -1 yard and then a Hail Mary post.

And if your Germanic brain needs proof positive, that offensive scheme got us to the semis where we ran out of time to beat SH. Last year got us a second round loss to Myrtle Beach U.
your first paragraph is fine since you're saying its a matter of taste, but you're re-writing history if you're saying our offense got us to the semis. our defense was no. 1 in points allowed, total d, rush d and no. 2 in pass d and pass eff d. if we had a d in 2011 like last years we might not have made the playoffs that year. the offense was first in scoring, fifth in total o, third in rush o, seventh in pass o, and fifth in pass eff.
 
cclarkblues said:
Sam A. Blitz said:
My prediction is that people are going to be very pleasantly surprised about how well JJ has command and comfort in the offense this year and that fewer of you will be bit*hing about the playcalling.

You may very well be right, but I predict there will be no lessening of the bitching.

nor will the play calling get any better...
 
Sam A. Blitz said:
My prediction is that people are going to be very pleasantly surprised about how well JJ has command and comfort in the offense this year and that fewer of you will be bit*hing about the playcalling.

:thumb: agreed. JJ has a group of skill players around him that he's very familiar with. The team is now much more familiar with the expectations on offense as well.
 
Ursa Major said:
I don't know about the rest of you douche bags but I still miss the JJ of late 2011. More so the scheme of 2011. He was in total command of the field. The last third of that season was just beauty in motion with JJ running the spread option offense like a finely tuned big block with an oversized cam. The hurt they put on NIU in the playoffs. I know it's not coming back but goddamn it, that was a beautiful thing to watch. Twenty years from now, when someone mentions JJ, I will think of those handful of games.
:thumb: :clap: Totally Agree!! To bad Brody missed them 2 FGs. I would have loved to see how the offense would have matched up against NDSU in Frisco! Now ya did it... I've gotta go watch some 2011 highlights.
 
Ursa Major said:
I don't know about the rest of you douche bags but I still miss the JJ of late 2011. More so the scheme of 2011. He was in total command of the field. The last third of that season was just beauty in motion with JJ running the spread option offense like a finely tuned big block with an oversized cam. The hurt they put on NIU in the playoffs. I know it's not coming back but goddamn it, that was a beautiful thing to watch. Twenty years from now, when someone mentions JJ, I will think of those handful of games./quote]

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