2013 Grizzlies Season?

[retiredfan]

I'm Just tickled shi***ss for the upcoming season. Some of our opponents who have puffed chests will be in for a lesson. We will be better in all phases of the game and they won't even realize it until it's to late. It's payback time. Beware the bear.

 

[Proud Griz Man]

Proud Griz Man...WOW... you're off on the wr comments. Your going to compare a frosh with Joe Doug??? :roll: Ellis had 2 raw qb's who had questionable accuracy at best. Hendy will soar in his soph year with a baller at the qb position.( if he stays healthy) Like man are you going to compare qb's to super dave after their first year?? I'm expecting 50 catches out of Ellis this year which is lofty for a soph, but he has it in him. :egriz:

RimRock: you couldn't be further from the truth. Way off.

Here is my post:

IMHO - UM needs a Big-time playmaker (e.g. - Douglass, Molden, Farris, Heidelberger, Segers, Mariani).

I did not bring up Ellis. You people did.

Since ya'll brought him up AGAIN. Who was that '50-catch receiver' that dropped the 4th quarter pass across the middle at UND in a crucial situation? Questionable accuracy? It was a catchable ball.

 

[uofmman1122]

Proud Griz Man...WOW... you're off on the wr comments. Your going to compare a frosh with Joe Doug??? :roll: Ellis had 2 raw qb's who had questionable accuracy at best. Hendy will soar in his soph year with a baller at the qb position.( if he stays healthy) Like man are you going to compare qb's to super dave after their first year?? I'm expecting 50 catches out of Ellis this year which is lofty for a soph, but he has it in him. :egriz:

RimRock: you couldn't be further from the truth. Way off.

Here is my post:

IMHO - UM needs a Big-time playmaker (e.g. - Douglass, Molden, Farris, Heidelberger, Segers, Mariani).

I did not bring up Ellis. You people did.

Since ya'll brought him up AGAIN. Who was that '50-catch receiver' that dropped the 4th quarter pass across the middle at UND in a crucial situation? Questionable accuracy? It was a catchable ball.

Yet you're the one that completely shot down the possibility of him being a big-time playmaker after that.

That's what I had issues with.

If we looked at all those players' you mentioned freshman seasons, I'm sure almost none of them looked like they'd become the playmakers they ended up being. You can't tell me you knew Mariani would be that good in 2006 or 2007.

That's all I'm saying. Don't write off Henderson (the most promising of our WRs) just because his freshman season wasn't electric, especially with the QB play being as bad as it was last year.

 

[WaGriz4life]

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[BigPawzSharpClawz]

By the date this appears to be his junior year highlights. There was a big recruiting class out of Washington that year. HOW in the name of all I love have we not thrown this kid a screen? I had yet to see this video & he takes 3 or 4 simple screens to the end zone!

I do agree with the comment about the catchable ball dropped vs UND. It seems apparent to me that he has made some big strides in year one. Wolcott, Warren, Haynes, Naccarato, Saylor & Henderson is a strong stable of guys. BTW did anyone else notice how much room the best DBs in the BSC gave him as a Freshman?

. This group of WRs will get it done. I have made no bones about it everyone knows, I really like this kid off the field as much as I do on it & dont be stupid he is our #1 playmaking WR. Like the song said, "Dont be a friggin loser...go back to school...Buehler!"

 

[griz4life]

Henderson will be fine. His first year reminds me a lot of Eric Allen's first year. Henderson was learning and he learned a lot. He was a much more mindful player at the end of last season than he was against EWU.
I've got to think, too that the Jordan Johnson organized 7 on 7s this summer are going to have an intensity and focus that last summer's didn't. No doubt who the leader of this offense is now and as the product of a coaching family you can bet Jordan Johnson knows how to get the most out of his team. Nothing against the other qbs, but I doubt that was the case last summer.

 

[spsyk]

Coach Delaney, may or may not be "Coach Of The Year" although will be most "Impoved For Keeping His Headphone's On And A Handkerchief At His Side"

And more that likely despite some of the "stupid head" mistake the coaching staff more than likely will make, this Griz Team will win football games.

It should be a more than prolific offense in spite of the moved up ST coordinator to a dual offensive coordinator position.

And if the secondary of the defense improves to where I believe it can, without the injuries, and the addition of athletes, this years defense could and should be dominate and could score as many point as the offense.

Go Griz 2013

 

[rimrockgriz]

I haven't compared ellis to anyone yet. He's going to be a SOPH!!!! If he stays the course I think he will be a star. I've elaborated about this in recent posts. I'm certainly not going to dig on a guy for a single drop in a game as a freshman. (UND) Maybe the safeties could have made a few plays to negate a 800 yard bomb day??? I'm just saying comparing Joe Doug to a frosh is idiotic :roll: ...and it's in your comments. :egriz:

 

[Proud Griz Man]

IMHO - UM needs a Big-time playmaker (e.g. - Douglass, Molden, Farris, Heidelberger, Segers, Mariani).

...Ellis Henderson?

There is my post, with WyoGrizFan quoting me and asking about Ellis Henderson. Plain and obvious.

 

[Proud Griz Man]

Proud Griz Man...WOW... you're off on the wr comments. Your going to compare a frosh with Joe Doug??? :roll: Ellis had 2 raw qb's who had questionable accuracy at best. Hendy will soar in his soph year with a baller at the qb position.( if he stays healthy) Like man are you going to compare qb's to super dave after their first year?? I'm expecting 50 catches out of Ellis this year which is lofty for a soph, but he has it in him. :egriz:

You can bag on the RS-Frosh and RS-Sophomore quarterbacks - questionable accuracy?

 

[uofmman1122]

IMHO - UM needs a Big-time playmaker (e.g. - Douglass, Molden, Farris, Heidelberger, Segers, Mariani).

...Ellis Henderson?

There is my post, with WyoGrizFan quoting me and asking about Ellis Henderson. Plain and obvious.

Awesome. That's still not the issue. I know you didn't bring him up, but you were the first person to put him down.

You were the first person to imply that he doesn't have what it takes to be a "big-time playmaker" and posted his freshman season stats, while comparing him to some of our very best receivers, none of whom looked particularly "playmaker-ish" during their freshman seasons at UM.

That's all I thought was harsh and kind of jumping the gun. If JJ can't make him effective in our offense, and he completely bombs this year, then go ahead and say he'll never be a playmaker, but again, he's the WR with the most potential on this team, and I think we should reserve judgement until he has ample opportunity to prove himself with a competent QB with some experience under his belt.

 

[Proud Griz Man]

IMHO - UM needs a Big-time playmaker (e.g. - Douglass, Molden, Farris, Heidelberger, Segers, Mariani).

...Ellis Henderson?

There is my post, with WyoGrizFan quoting me and asking about Ellis Henderson. Plain and obvious.

Awesome. That's still not the issue. I know you didn't bring him up, but you were the first person to put him down.

You were the first person to imply that he doesn't have what it takes to be a "big-time playmaker" and posted his freshman season stats, while comparing him to some of our very best receivers, none of whom looked particularly "playmaker-ish" during their freshman seasons at UM.

That's all I thought was harsh and kind of jumping the gun. If JJ can't make him effective in our offense, and he completely bombs this year, then go ahead and say he'll never be a playmaker, but again, he's the WR with the most potential on this team, and I think we should reserve judgement until he has ample opportunity to prove himself with a competent QB with some experience under his belt.

I said that "UM needs a big-time playmaker".

I didn't say that we need a freshman Farris or Molden. I didn't say I am looking for a freshman player with great potential that is ready to step up. I did not ever say "he'll never be a playmaker". You are blatantly mis-speaking and attributing false statements to me. I listed a handful of "Big time playmakers" and WyoGriz brought E Henderson into the conversation by quoting me and asking "Henderson?". I am not anti-Henderson.

Again, there must be a new rule at eGriz: thou shalt not criticize E Henderson but it is acceptable to criticize the young quarterbacks (not competent?).

Harsh - I did not say anything remotely close to "wait until we have some competent WRs with some experience" yet you say that about the quarterbacks.

 

[uofmman1122]

...Ellis Henderson?

There is my post, with WyoGrizFan quoting me and asking about Ellis Henderson. Plain and obvious.

Awesome. That's still not the issue. I know you didn't bring him up, but you were the first person to put him down.

You were the first person to imply that he doesn't have what it takes to be a "big-time playmaker" and posted his freshman season stats, while comparing him to some of our very best receivers, none of whom looked particularly "playmaker-ish" during their freshman seasons at UM.

That's all I thought was harsh and kind of jumping the gun. If JJ can't make him effective in our offense, and he completely bombs this year, then go ahead and say he'll never be a playmaker, but again, he's the WR with the most potential on this team, and I think we should reserve judgement until he has ample opportunity to prove himself with a competent QB with some experience under his belt.

I said that "UM needs a big-time playmaker".

I didn't say that we need a freshman Farris or Molden. I didn't say I am looking for a freshman player with great potential that is ready to step up. I did not ever say "he'll never be a playmaker". You are blatantly mis-speaking and attributing false statements to me. I listed a handful of "Big time playmakers" and WyoGriz brought E Henderson into the conversation by quoting me and asking "Henderson?". I am not anti-Henderson.

Again, there must be a new rule at eGriz: thou shalt not criticize E Henderson but it is acceptable to criticize the young quarterbacks (not competent?).

Harsh - I did not say anything remotely close to "wait until we have some competent WRs with some experience" yet you say that about the quarterbacks.

So you do or don't think Henderson can be a big playmaker for us this year? :|

 

[rimrockgriz]

There is my post, with WyoGrizFan quoting me and asking about Ellis Henderson. Plain and obvious.

Awesome. That's still not the issue. I know you didn't bring him up, but you were the first person to put him down.

You were the first person to imply that he doesn't have what it takes to be a "big-time playmaker" and posted his freshman season stats, while comparing him to some of our very best receivers, none of whom looked particularly "playmaker-ish" during their freshman seasons at UM.

That's all I thought was harsh and kind of jumping the gun. If JJ can't make him effective in our offense, and he completely bombs this year, then go ahead and say he'll never be a playmaker, but again, he's the WR with the most potential on this team, and I think we should reserve judgement until he has ample opportunity to prove himself with a competent QB with some experience under his belt.

I said that "UM needs a big-time playmaker".

I didn't say that we need a freshman Farris or Molden. I didn't say I am looking for a freshman player with great potential that is ready to step up. I did not ever say "he'll never be a playmaker". You are blatantly mis-speaking and attributing false statements to me. I listed a handful of "Big time playmakers" and WyoGriz brought E Henderson into the conversation by quoting me and asking "Henderson?". I am not anti-Henderson.

Again, there must be a new rule at eGriz: thou shalt not criticize E Henderson but it is acceptable to criticize the young quarterbacks (not competent?).

Harsh - I did not say anything remotely close to "wait until we have some competent WRs with some experience" yet you say that about the quarterbacks.

So you do or don't think Henderson can be a big playmaker for us this year? :|

:lol: :clap: :lol: :clap:

 

[BigPawzSharpClawz]

I believe that people are open to constructive criticism of players when appropriate. My issues with any player is the quick trigger to judge when 90% of comments come from people who barely played in HS school let alone was in their college depth chart as a contributing player.

Henderson is not above any of it if he is responsible for it...but there are many pieces of the football puzzle that must fit before a talented player can contribute at a high level with consistency. Remember great players, can make average coaches look like a genius.

It's not a fluke that his number was called in several critical moments last year, most of the time Rosey did NOT keep him in rhythm throughout the game. And then all of a sudden he would look for the kid to pull off magic?

Did anyone else go to Ronan and see him playing catch, throwing balls & teaching routes with the kids from town for almost a full hour after the game was over? Henderson = a big time person and future playmaker in my book :clap: :clap: :clap: :thumb:

 

[GrizPony]

So we are agreed then, this season, I mean Henderson, I mean the team, I mean...... where are we again?