grizindabox said:It's not very difficult to remain eligible at UM either.
Especially if your coach is walking you to class every day.
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2013 Griz Football Class Signed (24)
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Especially if your coach is walking you to class every day.
marceagfan5
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Ursa Major said:
Makes sense, I've never heard of a Prop 48 Kid at UM so I wasn't sure. EWU does have the luxury to take these kids that some schools don't, so its definitely a benefit. It also benefits the kid who gets a shot at a college education. We've had our share of hits and misses with the Prop 48, but from EWU's standpoint and the kids standpoint, its a win/win situation.
marceagfan5 said:
I agree. Over the years we have had some very talented American Indian basketball players in Mt. that I would have liked to have seen get a chance at a college degree. Problem in B-ball is there are so few scholarships.
The last Prop 48 that comes to my mind was Van Cooper Jr.
I took a look at five of the players who are on the offers "pending" list and have the following thoughts. I don't think UM can go wrong with either Michael Carlson or Mitch Lomax. I would love to see Carlson as a safety for the Griz and Lomax could be the inside linebacker this class needs. Lomax has the frame to add a lot more weight, too. Both he and Carlson come from winning backgrounds, which I think is an important quality. I love kids who know how to win and are willing to do the work necessary to continue that tradition. I hope we can land one or both of these players (not knowing exactly how the scholarships breakdown at this time. We may already be maxed out or there could be schollies open that we don't know about).
JJ Husar is a speed merchant who seems to break everything for big yardage. He moves laterally very quickly and then gets back into high gear, but I didn't notice the ability to move forward as he was making defenders miss as Favors seemed to be able to do. However, get him in the open and he is . . . gone! He is definitely a good player and could be a nice addition to this class. However, given the other RBs already committed I would like to see the scholarship go to Carlson or Lomax (preferably both!).
The player that really impressed me was Cameron Rokich. He's a 6'6" 250 lb. left offensive tackle out of Draper Utah. His footwork is a good as I've seen from a H.S. player in a long time. He has a frame to add a lot more weight and moves very well for a guy of his length. I didn't see him pass block much on his highlight reel, but he drive blocks with "bad intentions," always a good sign as far as I am concerned. When I compare his highlight video with the player from Oregon, he is a lot lighter right now (but has room to add a lot more weight) but this kid moves like few linemen we see in H.S. He is quick, both laterally and vertically. He get off the ball and brings his hips through on his drive blocks. I'm not sure about his arm length, since again I didn't get too much of a sense of his pass blocking abilities. But I really liked his athleticism and the development of his footwork for a tall, young player. For those of your clamoring for an offensive lineman in this class, check this kid out. He seems like a much better O-line candidate than the Oregon player discussed in another recruiting thread.
I wasn't overly impressed by the DT on the list, Akeem Roller out of Minn. He seemed big and tended to over-power smaller linemen, but I didn't see much "fire" out of him. One caution with all of these players is that it is hard to tell the caliber of competition they are facing in their highlight videos. I may be that the MN kid is playing vs. much better competition than the young man from Draper. Nonetheless, the Rokich kid really impressed me as an offensive tackle. Who ever gets him is going to have a great offensive tackle in a couple of years.
JJ Husar is a speed merchant who seems to break everything for big yardage. He moves laterally very quickly and then gets back into high gear, but I didn't notice the ability to move forward as he was making defenders miss as Favors seemed to be able to do. However, get him in the open and he is . . . gone! He is definitely a good player and could be a nice addition to this class. However, given the other RBs already committed I would like to see the scholarship go to Carlson or Lomax (preferably both!).
The player that really impressed me was Cameron Rokich. He's a 6'6" 250 lb. left offensive tackle out of Draper Utah. His footwork is a good as I've seen from a H.S. player in a long time. He has a frame to add a lot more weight and moves very well for a guy of his length. I didn't see him pass block much on his highlight reel, but he drive blocks with "bad intentions," always a good sign as far as I am concerned. When I compare his highlight video with the player from Oregon, he is a lot lighter right now (but has room to add a lot more weight) but this kid moves like few linemen we see in H.S. He is quick, both laterally and vertically. He get off the ball and brings his hips through on his drive blocks. I'm not sure about his arm length, since again I didn't get too much of a sense of his pass blocking abilities. But I really liked his athleticism and the development of his footwork for a tall, young player. For those of your clamoring for an offensive lineman in this class, check this kid out. He seems like a much better O-line candidate than the Oregon player discussed in another recruiting thread.
I wasn't overly impressed by the DT on the list, Akeem Roller out of Minn. He seemed big and tended to over-power smaller linemen, but I didn't see much "fire" out of him. One caution with all of these players is that it is hard to tell the caliber of competition they are facing in their highlight videos. I may be that the MN kid is playing vs. much better competition than the young man from Draper. Nonetheless, the Rokich kid really impressed me as an offensive tackle. Who ever gets him is going to have a great offensive tackle in a couple of years.
WyomingGrizFan
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Bjorn Bjornstein said:
From what I hear it's really the opposite. Dan Moore was recruited for the 2008 season but had to sit out due to NCAA Rules < http://www.gogriz.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/dan_moore_737911.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Then for 2009 he was listed as a sophomore < http://www.egriz.com/football/yr2009/montana-grizzlies-football-roster/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
For 2010 he was listed as a junior < http://www.egriz.com/football/yr2010/montana-grizzlies-football-roster/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
For 2011 as a junior again: http://www.egriz.com/football/yr2011/montana-grizzlies-football-roster/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Then as a Redshirt Sr in 2012 < http://www.gogriz.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mont-m-footbl-mtt.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (while it's still an active link)
Evidently he worked hard enough academically to regain his lost year of eligibility (perhaps obtaining that status between the 2010 & 2011 seasons) in order to retroactively consider the 2008 season as a Redshirt year.
grizfan1984
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This is what happend to Hassan Richardson and he is now at Snow College is small little Ephraim Utah.
WyomingGrizFan
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Now that you mention it, that does seem to be the case in point, as I recall; if memory serves me correctly. Heard it somewhere like that. Not necessarily Prop 48 but as you clarify it.gah-riz said:
All FCS teams can take non-qualifiers. There wouldn't be any advantage for one university over another.
Eastern's philosophy is that taking a couple of prop kids is a no-lose proposition because you aren't out any money when they sign. They have to pay their own way through the first year of college--- most likely getting aid, but without AD monies-- so if they wash out, so be it. Plus, Eastern really works hard to keep those kids around; they spend a lot of time kicking kids in the ass academically.
Prop kids are always a 50/50 deal, for every one that works out, another may not even set foot on campus. After all, let's face it, how lazy do you have to be if high school is breaking your balls? Some kids just don't find the motivation until they are forced to, others just don't ever find it.
Eastern's philosophy is that taking a couple of prop kids is a no-lose proposition because you aren't out any money when they sign. They have to pay their own way through the first year of college--- most likely getting aid, but without AD monies-- so if they wash out, so be it. Plus, Eastern really works hard to keep those kids around; they spend a lot of time kicking kids in the ass academically.
Prop kids are always a 50/50 deal, for every one that works out, another may not even set foot on campus. After all, let's face it, how lazy do you have to be if high school is breaking your balls? Some kids just don't find the motivation until they are forced to, others just don't ever find it.
PTGrizzly said:
That may sound good as a talking point, but I don't think there is much evidence to back it up. EWU turns away a higher percentage of applicants each year than U of M. The University of Montana also ranked at the bottom of all ranked schools (tie for 199th) in the US News national rankings (granted, better than EWU who was listed as "unranked.")
And let's be real, take a kid with a UM BA and another with an EWU BA and the exact same master's, and who is going to be preferred by a top employer? It'll be a toss-up. And really, that's the case with any undergrad degree program--- unless you go to a top school (Ivy League or thereabouts), the undergrad work is going to pale in importance to the post-grad.
I will say, though, that Eastern did seem marginally easier than Washington State, where I also did coursework and carry my degree from. But most of that was due to the fact you could only get a straight grade from WSU--- example, an A- was a 3.7, a B was a 3.0, etc.--- whereas Eastern allowed you to get igher GPs on 'tweener grades--- in other words, you could get an A- that was a 3.9, a B that was a 3.2, etc.
PTGrizzly said:
PT, are you this big of an ass for real, or just when you can hide behind the anonymity of egriz?
marceagfan5
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PTGrizzly said:
I guess they only teach acting with class at JC schools...
As for the original title of this thread, it appears the Griz have a pretty strong class this year, nicely done. Haven't seen any news on a freshman QB, I can't imagine the Griz plan to stick with the QB's on your roster and I would guess JJ coming back is a crapshoot, whats the word on a transfer or frosh QB?
