2013 Griz Football Class Signed (24)

[Paytonlives]

Just out of curiosity, why is Roderick on this “possible transfers” list?

Where there was once just smoke... there is now fire...

Payton, please give us some great news!
It would be a wonderful Chritmas present if announced. :thumb:
Go Griz!

Word out of Nevada is that he will be transfering... Tannner was down to 2 schools (UM & Nevada) when he took the offer from Nevada. His dad is a big cat fan, however he was not going to stand in Tanners way if he picked UM...

Make no mistake, this kid is VERY talented! He could probably start at several pos. for the Griz.

I think its a good chance he will be a Griz... but who knows. The reality is that he will be home for Christmas break and that will probably determine alot.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

Mick and staff are doing the right thing by recruiting skill position players. Many of our current starters wouldn't be playing for several of the other Big Sky teams.

I HIGHLY AGREE with your two sentences.

 

[Paytonlives]

In 2011 Roderick won BOTH the Basketball and Football Gaterade Player of the Year.

In Football as a Senior at Bozeman High.
Hewas named offensive MVP for Class AA after passing for 2,457 yards and 28 touchdowns. He also ran for 1,913 yards and 23 scores

51 TOTAL TOUCHDOWN!!!!

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

Hav....please allow me to answer in this fashion: Which of our starters at WR, DB or QB would have started for Eastern Washington this year?

BINGO :!: :!: :!:

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

Hav....please allow me to answer in this fashion: Which of our starters at WR, DB or QB would have started for Eastern Washington this year?

in keeping this "real",,i believe it would be hard to argue with spanky on this one...we need to upgrade...

:thumb:

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

Hav....please allow me to answer in this fashion: Which of our starters at WR, DB or QB would have started for Eastern Washington this year?

in keeping this "real",,i believe it would be hard to argue with spanky on this one...we need to upgrade...

Serious question: How do we REALLY know what we have at WR when we didn't have a QB who could get them the ball more than 7 yards down field?

Personally, I would think Henderson, Gratton & Saylor could start on any BSC team.

We know what we have at WR as a whole when defenses play man-to--man against us and we still don't get seperation.

The SHSU coach commented right before the EWU game that SHSU had played Baylor and Texas A&M this season, but that the EWU recieving corps would be the most talented group of WRs that SHSU would see this year! The actual SHSU vs EWU game proved him correct. You have never heard, and will never hear, that coming from a coach speaking about Montanas WRs!

 

[griz4life]

Hav....please allow me to answer in this fashion: Which of our starters at WR, DB or QB would have started for Eastern Washington this year?

in keeping this "real",,i believe it would be hard to argue with spanky on this one...we need to upgrade...

:thumb:

Always need to upgrade, but there was also a pretty green receiving corps at UM in 2012. They improved as the year went on and I don't think it was because S-H became the QB. Ellis Henderson at the end of the season was a better player than the Ellis Henderson the Griz turned to unsuccessfully win the game at EWU.

 

[Grizfan-24]

and for the record i don't think SSH is the answer, but Makena sure as hell isn't.

As an observer of his football in Idaho and seeing Simis on film a time or two... He can play. Had it not been for Madison (Rexburg) brutalizing 5a opponents through the air, Simis probably would have been all state at 5a. Capital struggled this year but it wasn't because of his ability.

He's mobile, accurate, has great feel in and out of the pocket. He has a feel for the game that reminds me of Johnson. His issue; most schools believe he is a system quarterback. From convos with other coaches, Montana was good to get him and felt that he had schools shy away from him in the way Kellen Moore was ignored away from by other d1 schools.

He can play, and I personally don't obsess over what high school kids appear like on highlight film. Seeing him in full game play film, he can play at the fcs level.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

Just a few of JC names to throw out there... Information is hard to come by because they rarly update the JC info. But UM has atleast shown some interest in these guys (I am sure there are many more)

RB- C.J. Best Diablo Valley C.C. 5'10" 195 4.4
RB- Melvyn Davidson Mount San Jacinto C.C. 6'0" 185 4.5

WR- ShaVarez Smith Dean J.C. 6'2" 205

LB- Ricky Cortes College of the Siskiyous 6'0" 225
LB- Levunte Pittman Northland C.C. 5'11" 225 4.6

UM can't be interested in those two RBs, they are too fast, UM doesn't recruit faster players than their opponents. :lol: :thumb: (tongue in cheek)

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

nonsense, wise guy. ok, which other skill players would have started for....let's say the top 5 teams in the Big Sky?

Spanky it is too early in their careers to judge their ceiling of each one.
How many BSC teams had a 1st year head coach, new oc, inexperienced qb's, and inexperienced wr, and lost their expected starting qb over no fault of their own?

It is impossible to judge these guys this early. Granted the results were disappointing this year, but not because of their talent. They need time to get on the same page, and maybe Rosenbach was not very good at getting these guys on the same page. Judge these guys after their JR years, for a fair talent evaluation. :thumb:

We AREN'T judging their ceilings (future upperclass years), we are judging their current abilities! They weren't ready as FR to torch anyboby! (With the exception of second year college player Henderson)

Sure the future looks good, but the recent (FR) season was BAD.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

Spanky - Lapse in recruiting, really??? There are a lot of things you can say about Robin, but there is no doubt the guy is one of the best, if not THE best, recruiters we've ever had here. The guy was the Pac-10 Recruiter of the Year a couple of times before he got here and the 2 recruiting classes under his tenure were considered some of the best recruiting classes ever at Montana. I just don't buy that we are falling behind talent-wise. I do believe though that our coaching has taken a drastic turn for the worse and I would not be the least bit surprised to see it drastically impact this year's recruiting class. Minus a few positions, I think the players we currently have stack up talent-wise very favorably with pretty much any team in the Big Sky. For these reasons, this upcoming class could tell us a lot about the future of our program.

This

Continuing to blame every malperformance on the coaching is getting lame. We had some serious execution problems by players - simply getting beat - this year as well so it's time to come out of your denial. Simple fact; we did not have the best talent in the BSC this year irrespective of what you say. I'm not covering for the coaching in any way; it sucked. But if we had dominating talent we would have won more than 5 games even with the coaching problems.

:!: :!: :!: WELL SAID :!: :!: :!:

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

Spanky - Lapse in recruiting, really??? There are a lot of things you can say about Robin, but there is no doubt the guy is one of the best, if not THE best, recruiters we've ever had here. The guy was the Pac-10 Recruiter of the Year a couple of times before he got here and the 2 recruiting classes under his tenure were considered some of the best recruiting classes ever at Montana. I just don't buy that we are falling behind talent-wise. I do believe though that our coaching has taken a drastic turn for the worse and I would not be the least bit surprised to see it drastically impact this year's recruiting class. Minus a few positions, I think the players we currently have stack up talent-wise very favorably with pretty much any team in the Big Sky. For these reasons, this upcoming class could tell us a lot about the future of our program.

This

Continuing to blame every malperformance on the coaching is getting lame. We had some serious execution problems by players - simply getting beat - this year as well so it's time to come out of your denial. Simple fact; we did not have the best talent in the BSC this year irrespective of what you say. I'm not covering for the coaching in any way; it sucked. But if we had dominating talent we would have won more than 5 games even with the coaching problems.

I agree with what you are saying. I do not solely blame the coaching staff at all. Players win games. Our players lost those games and couldn't finish. I think our upper classman last year were much weaker than we've had in the past. You are right, we were not the most talented team in the Big Sky last year. Just like there have been many years where we've won the Big Sky without the most talent in the league. I think the FR, RS FR, and SO coming up will change this and how we finish games.

Right on spot :clap:

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

Spanky - Lapse in recruiting, really??? There are a lot of things you can say about Robin, but there is no doubt the guy is one of the best, if not THE best, recruiters we've ever had here. The guy was the Pac-10 Recruiter of the Year a couple of times before he got here and the 2 recruiting classes under his tenure were considered some of the best recruiting classes ever at Montana. I just don't buy that we are falling behind talent-wise. I do believe though that our coaching has taken a drastic turn for the worse and I would not be the least bit surprised to see it drastically impact this year's recruiting class. Minus a few positions, I think the players we currently have stack up talent-wise very favorably with pretty much any team in the Big Sky. For these reasons, this upcoming class could tell us a lot about the future of our program.

This

Continuing to blame every malperformance on the coaching is getting lame. We had some serious execution problems by players - simply getting beat - this year as well so it's time to come out of your denial. Simple fact; we did not have the best talent in the BSC this year irrespective of what you say. I'm not covering for the coaching in any way; it sucked. But if we had dominating talent we would have won more than 5 games even with the coaching problems.

Kem - Notice I said our talent stacks up "favorably" favorably to every team in the Big Sky, not that that our talent is superior to every team in the Big Sky. Did I say "best talent" at any point? No. Yes, performance was an issue, but I refuse to buy the argument that, on the whole, we are falling behind talent-wise with any other team in the Big Sky. Obviously the lack of talent at the QB position was a major factor in this season. But how many other programs could lose their top 2 returning QBs within a couple months of the season and not take a massive hit? I will also agree with you that our secondary was very sub-par last season. Beyond that though, I don't see where we're "falling behind" athletically. How else do you explain a team going from a NC-contender the year before, to the worst team we've had in the last 25 years?? It's not that our squad just magically fell off the cliff into the shallow end of the talent pool. The answer is simple: look at the two most glaring omissions from last year's team, a competent head coach and a competent QB.

Not head coach, coordinators was the prob!

Not to mention a 3 stooges secondary that gives up upwards of 700 yards passing in one game to who, ND?!?!?!

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

Payton or anyone else,
I had read earlier that the Horner kid from CMR is a possible candidate at receiver for the griz. Anyone know if we have any type of offer to him? I saw him play some hoops the past few weeks, and the kid is an athlete. Could be a Bagley type receiver, except I think he is a little taller and seems a touch more athletic than Bagley. With his height, I could actually see him as a Hardy like tight end.

I seen him play state champion Butte High twice this past season, he is a great athlete for sure. And I like the TE possibility, he would abuse/make some plays against some safeties. Tough, athletic, big kid.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

In 2011 Roderick won BOTH the Basketball and Football Gaterade Player of the Year.

In Football as a Senior at Bozeman High.
Hewas named offensive MVP for Class AA after passing for 2,457 yards and 28 touchdowns. He also ran for 1,913 yards and 23 scores

51 TOTAL TOUCHDOWN!!!!

Roderick is a stud, and would start for the Griz at many positions...

Bow your heads and ray:

 

[grizpack]

In 2011 Roderick won BOTH the Basketball and Football Gaterade Player of the Year.

In Football as a Senior at Bozeman High.
Hewas named offensive MVP for Class AA after passing for 2,457 yards and 28 touchdowns. He also ran for 1,913 yards and 23 scores

51 TOTAL TOUCHDOWN!!!!

Roderick is a stud, and would start for the Griz at many positions...

Bow your heads and ray:

He had one of the best passes I have ever witnessed, and it was on the basketball court. Full length of the court, on a rope, and it couldn't have been placed any better. Oh yeah, he threw it while he was on the run too......

 

[DylanMiller12]

and for the record i don't think SSH is the answer, but Makena sure as hell isn't.

As an observer of his football in Idaho and seeing Simis on film a time or two... He can play. Had it not been for Madison (Rexburg) brutalizing 5a opponents through the air, Simis probably would have been all state at 5a. Capital struggled this year but it wasn't because of his ability.

He's mobile, accurate, has great feel in and out of the pocket. He has a feel for the game that reminds me of Johnson. His issue; most schools believe he is a system quarterback. From convos with other coaches, Montana was good to get him and felt that he had schools shy away from him in the way Kellen Moore was ignored away from by other d1 schools.

He can play, and I personally don't obsess over what high school kids appear like on highlight film. Seeing him in full game play film, he can play at the fcs level.

i will take your word for it.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

In 2011 Roderick won BOTH the Basketball and Football Gaterade Player of the Year.

In Football as a Senior at Bozeman High.
Hewas named offensive MVP for Class AA after passing for 2,457 yards and 28 touchdowns. He also ran for 1,913 yards and 23 scores

51 TOTAL TOUCHDOWN!!!!

Roderick is a stud, and would start for the Griz at many positions...

Bow your heads and ray:

He had one of the best passes I have ever witnessed, and it was on the basketball court. Full length of the court, on a rope, and it couldn't have been placed any better. Oh yeah, he threw it while he was on the run too......

Right on grizpack, Roderick is definitly one of the best athletes to come out of MT.

Good God, GATORADE PLAYER OF THE YEAR IN BOTH FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL?!?! :shock:

Those are very impressive football senior stats, culminating in a state championship.

 

[Raider]

Just out of curiosity, why is Roderick on this “possible transfers” list?

Where there was once just smoke... there is now fire...

Payton, please give us some great news!
It would be a wonderful Chritmas present if announced. :thumb:
Go Griz!

Word out of Nevada is that he will be transfering... Tannner was down to 2 schools (UM & Nevada) when he took the offer from Nevada. His dad is a big cat fan, however he was not going to stand in Tanners way if he picked UM...

Make no mistake, this kid is VERY talented! He could probably start at several pos. for the Griz.

I think its a good chance he will be a Griz... but who knows. The reality is that he will be home for Christmas break and that will probably determine alot.

Not only is Steve a cat fan, he is also a former player. Great guy too.

He was very open about Tanner’s decision out of high-school and would have supported him becoming a Griz. That was before the recent “scandals”, and the mood is a little different now.

Tanner will not be a Griz.

 

[BigPawzSharpClawz]

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Continuing to blame every malperformance on the coaching is getting lame. We had some serious execution problems by players - simply getting beat - this year as well so it's time to come out of your denial. Simple fact; we did not have the best talent in the BSC this year irrespective of what you say. I'm not covering for the coaching in any way; it sucked. But if we had dominating talent we would have won more than 5 games even with the coaching problems.

I agree with what you are saying. I do not solely blame the coaching staff at all. Players win games. Our players lost those games and couldn't finish. I think our upper classman last year were much weaker than we've had in the past. You are right, we were not the most talented team in the Big Sky last year. Just like there have been many years where we've won the Big Sky without the most talent in the league. I think the FR, RS FR, and SO coming up will change this and how we finish games.

Right on spot :clap:

You all have some very valid points. However, the development of the talent that we have is directly attached to the position coach that they play for. The responsibility of that development ultimately falls on the man in charge of the program (HC).

This was the best recruiting class in the BSC conference last year. Henderson and Holmes are the 1 and 2 ranked guys in that class. Our 2012 class is very talented. The execution comes about through individual development during practice and training. Ultimately, this is the responsibility of the coaching staff. Success is definitely a by product of Execution and Development.