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2013 Griz Football Class Signed (24)

Spanky - Lapse in recruiting, really??? There are a lot of things you can say about Robin, but there is no doubt the guy is one of the best, if not THE best, recruiters we've ever had here. The guy was the Pac-10 Recruiter of the Year a couple of times before he got here and the 2 recruiting classes under his tenure were considered some of the best recruiting classes ever at Montana. I just don't buy that we are falling behind talent-wise. I do believe though that our coaching has taken a drastic turn for the worse and I would not be the least bit surprised to see it drastically impact this year's recruiting class. Minus a few positions, I think the players we currently have stack up talent-wise very favorably with pretty much any team in the Big Sky. For these reasons, this upcoming class could tell us a lot about the future of our program.
 
75....really? Then where are the players? Bobby Hauck was the best recruiter in the history of UM football without peer.
 
Just a few of JC names to throw out there... Information is hard to come by because they rarly update the JC info. But UM has atleast shown some interest in these guys (I am sure there are many more)

RB- C.J. Best Diablo Valley C.C. 5'10" 195 4.4
RB- Melvyn Davidson Mount San Jacinto C.C. 6'0" 185 4.5

WR- ShaVarez Smith Dean J.C. 6'2" 205

LB- Ricky Cortes College of the Siskiyous 6'0" 225
LB- Levunte Pittman Northland C.C. 5'11" 225 4.6
 
gotgame75 said:
Spanky - Lapse in recruiting, really??? There are a lot of things you can say about Robin, but there is no doubt the guy is one of the best, if not THE best, recruiters we've ever had here. The guy was the Pac-10 Recruiter of the Year a couple of times before he got here and the 2 recruiting classes under his tenure were considered some of the best recruiting classes ever at Montana. I just don't buy that we are falling behind talent-wise. I do believe though that our coaching has taken a drastic turn for the worse and I would not be the least bit surprised to see it drastically impact this year's recruiting class. Minus a few positions, I think the players we currently have stack up talent-wise very favorably with pretty much any team in the Big Sky. For these reasons, this upcoming class could tell us a lot about the future of our program.
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Spanky said:
75....really? Then where are the players? Bobby Hauck was the best recruiter in the history of UM football without peer.

If there were no "players" recruited by Pflu, why were so many underclassmen (including several true freshmen) getting so much quality PT last year?

You don't think 3 different national agency investigations, 2 different AD's, 3 different OC's, 3 different HC's, 3 different DC's, 3 different offensive systems in the past four years MIGHT have something to do with our lack of performance on the field last year?
 
WaGriz4life said:
gotgame75 said:
Spanky - Lapse in recruiting, really??? There are a lot of things you can say about Robin, but there is no doubt the guy is one of the best, if not THE best, recruiters we've ever had here. The guy was the Pac-10 Recruiter of the Year a couple of times before he got here and the 2 recruiting classes under his tenure were considered some of the best recruiting classes ever at Montana. I just don't buy that we are falling behind talent-wise. I do believe though that our coaching has taken a drastic turn for the worse and I would not be the least bit surprised to see it drastically impact this year's recruiting class. Minus a few positions, I think the players we currently have stack up talent-wise very favorably with pretty much any team in the Big Sky. For these reasons, this upcoming class could tell us a lot about the future of our program.
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Continuing to blame every malperformance on the coaching is getting lame. We had some serious execution problems by players - simply getting beat - this year as well so it's time to come out of your denial. Simple fact; we did not have the best talent in the BSC this year irrespective of what you say. I'm not covering for the coaching in any way; it sucked. But if we had dominating talent we would have won more than 5 games even with the coaching problems.
 
kemajic said:
WaGriz4life said:
gotgame75 said:
Spanky - Lapse in recruiting, really??? There are a lot of things you can say about Robin, but there is no doubt the guy is one of the best, if not THE best, recruiters we've ever had here. The guy was the Pac-10 Recruiter of the Year a couple of times before he got here and the 2 recruiting classes under his tenure were considered some of the best recruiting classes ever at Montana. I just don't buy that we are falling behind talent-wise. I do believe though that our coaching has taken a drastic turn for the worse and I would not be the least bit surprised to see it drastically impact this year's recruiting class. Minus a few positions, I think the players we currently have stack up talent-wise very favorably with pretty much any team in the Big Sky. For these reasons, this upcoming class could tell us a lot about the future of our program.
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Continuing to blame every malperformance on the coaching is getting lame. We had some serious execution problems by players - simply getting beat - this year as well so it's time to come out of your denial. Simple fact; we did not have the best talent in the BSC this year irrespective of what you say. I'm not covering for the coaching in any way; it sucked. But if we had dominating talent we would have won more than 5 games even with the coaching problems.
I agree with what you are saying. I do not solely blame the coaching staff at all. Players win games. Our players lost those games and couldn't finish. I think our upper classman last year were much weaker than we've had in the past. You are right, we were not the most talented team in the Big Sky last year. Just like there have been many years where we've won the Big Sky without the most talent in the league. I think the FR, RS FR, and SO coming up will change this and how we finish games.
 
kemajic said:
Continuing to blame every malperformance on the coaching is getting lame. We had some serious execution problems by players - simply getting beat - this year as well so it's time to come out of your denial. Simple fact; we did not have the best talent in the BSC this year irrespective of what you say. I'm not covering for the coaching in any way; it sucked. But if we had dominating talent we would have won more than 5 games even with the coaching problems.

Yep! :thumb:
 
We may not have had the most talented senior classes (certainly one of the smallest), but I think we had probably the most impact freshmens of any BSC team. That, in my opinion, is why we will improve drastically next year. In addition, basically our entire oline and defensive lines are returning.
 
kemajic said:
WaGriz4life said:
gotgame75 said:
Spanky - Lapse in recruiting, really??? There are a lot of things you can say about Robin, but there is no doubt the guy is one of the best, if not THE best, recruiters we've ever had here. The guy was the Pac-10 Recruiter of the Year a couple of times before he got here and the 2 recruiting classes under his tenure were considered some of the best recruiting classes ever at Montana. I just don't buy that we are falling behind talent-wise. I do believe though that our coaching has taken a drastic turn for the worse and I would not be the least bit surprised to see it drastically impact this year's recruiting class. Minus a few positions, I think the players we currently have stack up talent-wise very favorably with pretty much any team in the Big Sky. For these reasons, this upcoming class could tell us a lot about the future of our program.
This
Continuing to blame every malperformance on the coaching is getting lame. We had some serious execution problems by players - simply getting beat - this year as well so it's time to come out of your denial. Simple fact; we did not have the best talent in the BSC this year irrespective of what you say. I'm not covering for the coaching in any way; it sucked. But if we had dominating talent we would have won more than 5 games even with the coaching problems.

Interesting take. I think the talent kept us IN games that because of the coaching (and offensive and defensive play-calling) otherwise we would not have been in.

Just one man's opinion, though.
 
kemajic said:
WaGriz4life said:
gotgame75 said:
Spanky - Lapse in recruiting, really??? There are a lot of things you can say about Robin, but there is no doubt the guy is one of the best, if not THE best, recruiters we've ever had here. The guy was the Pac-10 Recruiter of the Year a couple of times before he got here and the 2 recruiting classes under his tenure were considered some of the best recruiting classes ever at Montana. I just don't buy that we are falling behind talent-wise. I do believe though that our coaching has taken a drastic turn for the worse and I would not be the least bit surprised to see it drastically impact this year's recruiting class. Minus a few positions, I think the players we currently have stack up talent-wise very favorably with pretty much any team in the Big Sky. For these reasons, this upcoming class could tell us a lot about the future of our program.
This
Continuing to blame every malperformance on the coaching is getting lame. We had some serious execution problems by players - simply getting beat - this year as well so it's time to come out of your denial. Simple fact; we did not have the best talent in the BSC this year irrespective of what you say. I'm not covering for the coaching in any way; it sucked. But if we had dominating talent we would have won more than 5 games even with the coaching problems.

Kem - Notice I said our talent stacks up "favorably" favorably to every team in the Big Sky, not that that our talent is superior to every team in the Big Sky. Did I say "best talent" at any point? No. Yes, performance was an issue, but I refuse to buy the argument that, on the whole, we are falling behind talent-wise with any other team in the Big Sky. Obviously the lack of talent at the QB position was a major factor in this season. But how many other programs could lose their top 2 returning QBs within a couple months of the season and not take a massive hit? I will also agree with you that our secondary was very sub-par last season. Beyond that though, I don't see where we're "falling behind" athletically. How else do you explain a team going from a NC-contender the year before, to the worst team we've had in the last 25 years?? It's not that our squad just magically fell off the cliff into the shallow end of the talent pool. The answer is simple: look at the two most glaring omissions from last year's team, a competent head coach and a competent QB.
 
BigPawzSharpClawz said:
QB Makena Simis 6'2" 185 (Capital HS) Boise, ID

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ0_oD7MbW4[/youtube]

I like what I see in this young QB!


Just looked up Simis' 2012 final stats in the Idaho Statesman and he had a great season.

http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2012/12/10/16/32/InPqQ.So.36.pdf
Montana landed the 6-foot-2,
200-pound senior in June, and
he finished his senior season in
style. Simis completed
180-of-263
passes for 2,240
yards, 24 TDs and
seven interceptions.
He also
added 535 rushing
yards and eight more TDs. “A
fierce competitor,” Mountain
View coach Judd Benedick said.
 
go96griz said:
BigPawzSharpClawz said:
QB Makena Simis 6'2" 185 (Capital HS) Boise, ID

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ0_oD7MbW4[/youtube]

I like what I see in this young QB!


Just looked up Simis' 2012 final stats in the Idaho Statesman and he had a great season.

http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2012/12/10/16/32/InPqQ.So.36.pdf
Montana landed the 6-foot-2,
200-pound senior in June, and
he finished his senior season in
style. Simis completed
180-of-263
passes for 2,240
yards, 24 TDs and
seven interceptions.
He also
added 535 rushing
yards and eight more TDs. “A
fierce competitor,” Mountain
View coach Judd Benedick said.

Watch the offense that Capital High of Boise runs. It is very much the same as we ran with Robin here. This kid is the coaches son and is pretty football smart. I think he brings a lot of intangibles. He can throw the ball accurately, can run and I like the fierce competitor aspect that he brings to the table. I hope he honors his verbal commitment. He will be interesting to watch to see how he fares.
 
Russell officially committed

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncfrecruiting/on-the-trail/post/_/id/26096/wr-marquin-russell-commits-to-montana" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Another Stanford QB... No word where he's headed but more of a pro style guy. So maybe with the new direction this offense....
http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=8751050" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Griz1 said:
go96griz said:
BigPawzSharpClawz said:
QB Makena Simis 6'2" 185 (Capital HS) Boise, ID

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ0_oD7MbW4[/youtube]

I like what I see in this young QB!


Just looked up Simis' 2012 final stats in the Idaho Statesman and he had a great season.

http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2012/12/10/16/32/InPqQ.So.36.pdf
Montana landed the 6-foot-2,
200-pound senior in June, and
he finished his senior season in
style. Simis completed
180-of-263
passes for 2,240
yards, 24 TDs and
seven interceptions.
He also
added 535 rushing
yards and eight more TDs. “A
fierce competitor,” Mountain
View coach Judd Benedick said.

Watch the offense that Capital High of Boise runs. It is very much the same as we ran with Robin here. This kid is the coaches son and is pretty football smart. I think he brings a lot of intangibles. He can throw the ball accurately, can run and I like the fierce competitor aspect that he brings to the table. I hope he honors his verbal commitment. He will be interesting to watch to see how he fares.


The fact that he is athletic and threw for 68% completion percentage (a lot of downfield throws) says a ton for me.
 
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