16 possible playoff scenerios left

[Grizdominate]

Here is how it goes
8th place in two (2) scenarios
7th place in one (1) scenario
6th place in three (3) scenarios
5th place in two (2) scenarios
4th place in zero (0) scenarios
3rd place in zero (0) scenarios
2nd place in eight (8) scenarios

If the Griz win they are the number two seed no matter what anyone else does

The Griz can lose and get into the playoffs in 5 different scenarios

A Portland St. lose puts the Griz in no matter what

Here is the breakdown if these teams win
ISU, Sac, NAU, WSU-Griz 6th
ISU, Sac, NAU, PSU- Griz 8th
ISU, NAU, MSU, WSU- Griz 6th
ISU, NAU, MSU, PSU- Griz 8th
EWU, NAU, Sac, WSU- Griz 5th
EWU, NAU, Sac, PSU- Griz 6th
EWU, NAU, MSU, WSU- Griz 5th
EWU, NAU, MSU, PSU- Griz 7th

 

[TrueGriz]

You do realize, if your using that PDF output of the 256 scenarios, that it may not be accurate. That PDF was done by a third party and hasn't been completely verified by the Big Sky Conference.

Anyway, sure nice to know that Griz can earn the second seed by winning Saturday, if it is correct.

 

[Potomac Griz]

I took the PDF that was on bigskyconf.com and got rid of all of the scenarios that can no longer happen out of the 256 they had. There are 16 left, and yes the original file was done by a 3rd party so some of them may be wrong. I'll be attempting to understand the tiebreaker process and edit the PDF once I figure it all out. Anyway, here's what I got so far for the 16 scenarios:

http://www.gonewest.net/scenarios.pdf

If a couple of the scenarios are wrong and I figure out the tiebreaker process I'll update that pdf file with the correct information. And...Yes, I have too much free time

If you don't have Adobe Acrobat reader to view PDF files you can download the free basic version here:
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[TrueGriz]

Below is the tie breaker procedure for anyone who wants to spend time to verify the scenarios in the PDF. This was taken from the same site where the PDF was obtained: www.bigskyconf.com

Big Sky Conference Tiebreaking Procedures


Big Sky Conference Tiebreaker


1. Head-to-Head Competition

a. Consider the head-to-head record during the Conference season. In double round robin play a team would have to sweep the opponent to break a tie with this method.

b. In the case of more than two tied teams, consider the Conference regular season record for head-to-head competition among all of the tied teams. This process is used to break ties between any of the tied teams with any remaining tied teams returning to the process at criteria 1.a. (above). (Example: Teams A, B, C and D have identical records from a double round robin season. In head-to-head competition Team A emerges with a 4-2 record against the other tied teams, Team B and Team C have a 3-3 record and Team D has a 2-4 record. Teams A and D can be placed in the final standings at that point while teams B and C return to criteria 1.a. If B and C have split their regular Conference season games, they will move to criteria 2. Performance against other teams in descending order.)

c. In the case of three or more teams having identical win-loss records, the normal tiebreaking procedure would be used. When one or more of these teams is eliminated by using the tiebreaking procedure, the remaining teams involved would then return to the criteria listed in a., above, to break the tie. This will be done until a team is established for that particular seeding position.



2. Performance against Conference teams in descending order of finish, beginning with the No. 1 team. (Example: Teams B and C remained tied after head-to-head criteria from above. Team A has been declared the Conference champion based on the above criteria. Team B has split the Conference season games with Team A and Team C has lost both of the Conference games to Team A. Team B is now placed in second-place ahead of Team C.)



3. RPI rankings



4. Coin flip between the tied teams



NOTE: In all tiebreaking procedures, if more than one tie exists, the tie among/between the teams lower in descending order will be broken first, to facilitate the process of breaking the tie between/among teams higher in the order. (Example: Teams A and B are tied for first and second, and teams C and D are tied for fourth and fifth. All tied teams have “split” the regular Conference season with their tied opponents. Teams C and D both have a 1-3 record vs. teams A and B. Team C has beaten Team A, and D has beaten Team B. Assuming all other tiebreakers are the same, teams C and D will have their placings determined by their RPI rankings, and then teams A and B enter the tie-breaking procedures.)

 

[Potomac Griz]

I checked through all of the scenarios in that PDF file I posted above. All of them seem to be correct when I went through the tiebreaker procedure for each of them. The only one that might not be correct is scenario #2. Sac/NAU could be switched around, as could ISU/MSU in that one.

Its kind of a pain since SAC/NAU are tied, split with eachother, neither beat EWU. For ISU/MSU same thing. To determine where ISU/MSU fall, you'd need to go down from EWU, down to SAC/NAU and find who won against the 2nd place team. ISU lost to NAU 2 times, but split with SAC, where MSU lost to SAC 2 times and split with NAU. Since 2nd/3rd place is determined in that scenario by who's in 4th and who's in 5th since they split with eachother and neither beat EWU, and 4/5th place is determined by who's in 2nd or 3rd, it makes it a pain. I'm not sure if that happens whether they go by RPI or what at that point, so I'll just trust the guy who did the original PDF, since he seems to have the other 15 perfect. Either way, in scenario #2 he has the Griz in the correct spot, and that's all that matters