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Sagarin Ratings!

Post by rocklobster » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:48 am

Overall
NDSU--39--1 (FCS)
JMU---67--2
GRIZ--87--3
WEBER-90--4
SDSU-----96-5

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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

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rocklobster wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:48 am
Overall
NDSU--39--1 (FCS)
JMU---67--2
GRIZ--87--3
WEBER-90--4
SDSU-----96-5
Dartmouth 101-6
SS 105-7
NI 108-8

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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

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PlayerRep wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:06 am
rocklobster wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:48 am
Overall
NDSU--39--1 (FCS)
JMU---67--2
GRIZ--87--3
WEBER-90--4
SDSU-----96-5
Dartmouth 101-6
SS 105-7
NI 108-8
Sorry about the Dartmouth omission.

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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by oGriz » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:52 am

5 Oregon**

Top 10 FCS
39 North Dakota State
67 James Madison
87 Montana*
90 Weber State*
96 South Dakota State
101 Dartmouth
105 Sacramento State*
108 Northern Iowa
120 Illinois State
121 Eastern Washington*
Next 10
123 Montana State*
125 Furman
126 UC Davis*
129 Towson
130 Princeton
131 Villanova
132 Southern Illinois
135 SE Louisiana
136 Maine
137 Wofford
Next 10
139 Sam Houston St
141 Yale
142 SE Missouri St
143 South Dakota**
144 Austin Peay
145 North Dakota
146 Monmouth**
147 New Hampshire
150 Nicholls State
151 Idaho*
* Big Sky Conference, ** Griz non-conference opponents
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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by oGriz » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:53 am

FCS Conference Ratings

1. Missouri Valley
2. Big Sky
3. Colonial
4. Ivy League
5. Southland
6. Ohio Valley
7. Southern
8. Patriot
9. Northeast
10. SWAC-West
11. Big South
12. Mid-Eastern
13. SWAC-East
14. Pioneer
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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by CDAGRIZ » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am

Quick, does anybody know what happens with the autobid if UM beats Weber but ends up tied with them in Sagarin?

(Assuming wins by sac, Weber, and UM, otherwise)

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Post by Ursa Major » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:19 pm

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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by catsack » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:26 pm

CDAGRIZ wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am
Quick, does anybody know what happens with the autobid if UM beats Weber but ends up tied with them in Sagarin?

(Assuming wins by sac, Weber, and UM, otherwise)
Assuming Griz win out autobid is meaningless Griz will be seeded in the top four.

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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by CDAGRIZ » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:42 pm

catsack wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:26 pm
CDAGRIZ wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am
Quick, does anybody know what happens with the autobid if UM beats Weber but ends up tied with them in Sagarin?

(Assuming wins by sac, Weber, and UM, otherwise)
Assuming Griz win out autobid is meaningless Griz will be seeded in the top four.
Sure, but how would it be decided? I mean, the BSC has to submit somebody for the autobid. Pretty sure they can’t just tell the Committee, “we’re all in the field, so don’t worry about it.”

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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by Fahque » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:49 pm

CDAGRIZ wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:42 pm
catsack wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:26 pm
CDAGRIZ wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am
Quick, does anybody know what happens with the autobid if UM beats Weber but ends up tied with them in Sagarin?

(Assuming wins by sac, Weber, and UM, otherwise)
Assuming Griz win out autobid is meaningless Griz will be seeded in the top four.
Sure, but how would it be decided? I mean, the BSC has to submit somebody for the autobid. Pretty sure they can’t just tell the Committee, “we’re all in the field, so don’t worry about it.”
https://bigskyconf.com/news/2012/10/25/ ... 24525.aspx

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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by DoubleNicks » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:51 pm

CDAGRIZ wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am
Quick, does anybody know what happens with the autobid if UM beats Weber but ends up tied with them in Sagarin?

(Assuming wins by sac, Weber, and UM, otherwise)
Why would that old App State receiver know the answer to the BSC craziness?
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But no worries, I know. It goes to a coin toss. With a two-headed coin. If it's tails, the favorite team (Weber, in this instance, because they're the conference's hometown team) wins the autobid. If it's heads, then Montana doesn't win it. Sac State wins the autobid if the third option of landing on its side happens. At least it's cut-and-dry. I can't tell you what happens when the fourth option of the coin comes into play...

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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by CDAGRIZ » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:56 pm

DoubleNicks wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:51 pm
CDAGRIZ wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am
Quick, does anybody know what happens with the autobid if UM beats Weber but ends up tied with them in Sagarin?

(Assuming wins by sac, Weber, and UM, otherwise)
Why would that old App State receiver know the answer to the BSC craziness?
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But no worries, I know. It goes to a coin toss. With a two-headed coin. If it's tails, the favorite team (Weber, in this instance, because they're the conference's hometown team) wins the autobid. If it's heads, then Montana doesn't win it. Sac State wins the autobid if the third option of landing on its side happens. At least it's cut-and-dry. I can't tell you what happens when the fourth option of the coin comes into play...
Thanks. I was wondering about the coin flip with three teams. I wonder who Bobby’s coin guy is. We need to make sure we have a good coin guy.

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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by grizpsych » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:00 pm

CDAGRIZ wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am
Quick, does anybody know what happens with the autobid if UM beats Weber but ends up tied with them in Sagarin?

(Assuming wins by sac, Weber, and UM, otherwise)
Interesting question. I think in the Big Sky it then goes to points for and points against. But, I could be wrong.

(I know, the last time I put I could be wrong led to a bunch of shit.)

Edit: Ha. I'm wrong. here is the rules from the BigSky .pdf for football.

TIE-BREAKER
When two or more Conference members are tied in the final Conference standings, the tie shall be
broken for purposes of determining the NCAA FCS automatic bid only, and shall be determined on
the following basis:
1. Head-to-head Competition
2. Record against common CONFERENCE opponents in descending order
3. Record against common NON-CONFERENCE opponents
4. Sagarin Rating
5. Coin Flip
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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by CDAGRIZ » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:04 pm

Fahque wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:49 pm
CDAGRIZ wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:42 pm
catsack wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:26 pm
CDAGRIZ wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am
Quick, does anybody know what happens with the autobid if UM beats Weber but ends up tied with them in Sagarin?

(Assuming wins by sac, Weber, and UM, otherwise)
Assuming Griz win out autobid is meaningless Griz will be seeded in the top four.
Sure, but how would it be decided? I mean, the BSC has to submit somebody for the autobid. Pretty sure they can’t just tell the Committee, “we’re all in the field, so don’t worry about it.”
https://bigskyconf.com/news/2012/10/25/ ... 24525.aspx
It’s absolutely awesome to see it actually written out like that. Common opponents only count is they were scheduled as conference games, and non-conference common opponents only count if they were non-conference games, even if in conference. And non-conference opponents played as conference opponents only count if they are in common. So, if we go to the three-way coin flip, who gets the bye in the first round of the coin flip? Is it the team who won the most conference games against non-conference teams, or the one who won the most against conference teams in non-conference games? What if that’s tied? Coin flip?

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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by CDAGRIZ » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:05 pm

grizpsych wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:00 pm
CDAGRIZ wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am
Quick, does anybody know what happens with the autobid if UM beats Weber but ends up tied with them in Sagarin?

(Assuming wins by sac, Weber, and UM, otherwise)
Interesting question. I think in the Big Sky it then goes to points for and points against. But, I could be wrong. Sagarin doesn't matter at all for the autobid.

(I know, the last time I put I could be wrong led to a bunch of shit.)
Sagarin is the tie-breaker before the coin flip.

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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by grizpsych » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:07 pm

CDAGRIZ wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:05 pm
grizpsych wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:00 pm
CDAGRIZ wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:18 am
Quick, does anybody know what happens with the autobid if UM beats Weber but ends up tied with them in Sagarin?

(Assuming wins by sac, Weber, and UM, otherwise)
Interesting question. I think in the Big Sky it then goes to points for and points against. But, I could be wrong. Sagarin doesn't matter at all for the autobid.

(I know, the last time I put I could be wrong led to a bunch of shit.)
Sagarin is the tie-breaker before the coin flip.
Yeah. I just found the rules. That is some crazy shit.

I edited my post.
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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by fanofzoo » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:08 pm

Ursa Major wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:19 pm
garizzalies wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:59 pm
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:lol: :lol: :lol: poty!
I must agree :thumb:

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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by bgbigdog » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:12 pm

fanofzoo wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:08 pm
Ursa Major wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:19 pm
garizzalies wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:59 pm
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:lol: :lol: :lol: poty!
I must agree :thumb:
It might be a tad early to close the voting, but I’d have to agree as well. Go ahead, polish up the trophy & award it now. :clap:
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Re: Sagarin Ratings!

Post by CDAGRIZ » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:17 pm

bgbigdog wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:12 pm
fanofzoo wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:08 pm
Ursa Major wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:19 pm
garizzalies wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:59 pm
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:lol: :lol: :lol: poty!
I must agree :thumb:
It might be a tad early to close the voting, but I’d have to agree as well. Go ahead, polish up the trophy & award it now. :clap:
The game is over. It’s Garizzalies’ board now. POTY.

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