CatGrad-UMGradStu
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Among the essential businesses in Colorado, presently under the governor's shelter in place order, are liquor stores, marijuana dispensaries and firearm retailers.
EverettGriz said:Florida finally closed its beaches two days ago. It needed to 22 days ago.
Florida is about to be overwhelmed. Louisiana as well. Mississippi will soon follow.
CatGrad-UMGradStu said:Among the essential businesses in Colorado, presently under the governor's shelter in place order, are liquor stores, marijuana dispensaries and firearm retailers.
PlayerRep said:My wife just did a video (Zoom) yoga class with her favorite Peak yogi. Said she noticed there were 59 people on it at one time.
argh! said:CatGrad-UMGradStu said:Among the essential businesses in Colorado, presently under the governor's shelter in place order, are liquor stores, marijuana dispensaries and firearm retailers.
not so sure about weed, but liquor stores staying open makes sense. if alcohol access is cut off, alcoholics with the dt's, which can be life threatening, could overwhelm emergency rooms even further. a sad reality, i know, but cutting off the sale of booze would not be smart.
mcg said:Florida may be a serious disaster. Some towns closed their beaches early, but some did not, so the open beaches simply became more crowded. There was a pretty significant spring break crowd not very interested in social distancing. This was a direct result of the governor not issue a state-wide closure order.
My mother in laws elder community has been very late to the behavior changes required. Still lots of people getting together in relatively small houses for card games with lots of shared food. Pretty much a recipe for transmission.
Lot's of folks migrating from NY, they'll bring at least some infection with them.
cclarkblues said:PlayerRep said:My wife just did a video (Zoom) yoga class with her favorite Peak yogi. Said she noticed there were 59 people on it at one time.
Our club, Granite fitness is offering a number of classes on their YouTube channel. Fitness gurus like Les Mills also has some free offerings during this time. It's a shame our club closed just as I was getting huge...
EverettGriz said:mcg said:Florida may be a serious disaster. Some towns closed their beaches early, but some did not, so the open beaches simply became more crowded. There was a pretty significant spring break crowd not very interested in social distancing. This was a direct result of the governor not issue a state-wide closure order.
My mother in laws elder community has been very late to the behavior changes required. Still lots of people getting together in relatively small houses for card games with lots of shared food. Pretty much a recipe for transmission.
Lot's of folks migrating from NY, they'll bring at least some infection with them.
Florida and New Orleans could be in SERIOUS trouble. Mississippi because the governor is an idiot.
argh! said:PlayerRep said:argh! said:PlayerRep said:He described this as something akin to a "really bad flu." Of course, no country quarantines 400 million+, cruise ships, and puts people on military bases with the flu (even H1N1)"
except the flu doesn't have anywhere near that hospitalization rate.
CDC flu stats. These are averaged (or something similar) annual numbers since 2010.
"CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010."
i meant by percentage, sorry. being estimated at 15% or even higher for this virus. percent wise, nowhere near flu - 36 million got sick last year, and 500,000 were hospitalized. what's that, a little over 1%?
mcg said:Here is a good article. It's way too long to cut and paste here, but read it:
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/armchair-epidemiology-coronavirus.html
ilovethecats said:argh! said:PlayerRep said:argh! said:except the flu doesn't have anywhere near that hospitalization rate.
CDC flu stats. These are averaged (or something similar) annual numbers since 2010.
"CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010."
i meant by percentage, sorry. being estimated at 15% or even higher for this virus. percent wise, nowhere near flu - 36 million got sick last year, and 500,000 were hospitalized. what's that, a little over 1%?
This has been pointed out before but as more testing is done these percentages will look very different. More testing equals more positive cases. However, as time goes on and there are more cases, the percentage of fatalities will decrease. And this doesn’t take in consideration the thousands or even millions of people doctors believe likely had the virus without even knowing.
I assume when we look back on this in the months and years to come, the numbers will be far different than what people are currently fearing. Time will tell.
cclarkblues said:PlayerRep said:My wife just did a video (Zoom) yoga class with her favorite Peak yogi. Said she noticed there were 59 people on it at one time.
Our club, Granite fitness is offering a number of classes on their YouTube channel. Fitness gurus like Les Mills also has some free offerings during this time. It's a shame our club closed just as I was getting huge...
Interesting article and I tend to follow that school of thought.PlayerRep said:ilovethecats said:argh! said:PlayerRep said:CDC flu stats. These are averaged (or something similar) annual numbers since 2010.
"CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010."
i meant by percentage, sorry. being estimated at 15% or even higher for this virus. percent wise, nowhere near flu - 36 million got sick last year, and 500,000 were hospitalized. what's that, a little over 1%?
This has been pointed out before but as more testing is done these percentages will look very different. More testing equals more positive cases. However, as time goes on and there are more cases, the percentage of fatalities will decrease. And this doesn’t take in consideration the thousands or even millions of people doctors believe likely had the virus without even knowing.
I assume when we look back on this in the months and years to come, the numbers will be far different than what people are currently fearing. Time will tell.
Look at my post right after your post, and the article I cite. This UK guy backing off his number is huge. The US and UK completely changed their view based on his earlier number, which had been a big increase from a much earlier number. Looks like he completely blew it.
ilovethecats said:Interesting article and I tend to follow that school of thought.PlayerRep said:ilovethecats said:argh! said:i meant by percentage, sorry. being estimated at 15% or even higher for this virus. percent wise, nowhere near flu - 36 million got sick last year, and 500,000 were hospitalized. what's that, a little over 1%?
This has been pointed out before but as more testing is done these percentages will look very different. More testing equals more positive cases. However, as time goes on and there are more cases, the percentage of fatalities will decrease. And this doesn’t take in consideration the thousands or even millions of people doctors believe likely had the virus without even knowing.
I assume when we look back on this in the months and years to come, the numbers will be far different than what people are currently fearing. Time will tell.
Look at my post right after your post, and the article I cite. This UK guy backing off his number is huge. The US and UK completely changed their view based on his earlier number, which had been a big increase from a much earlier number. Looks like he completely blew it.
Obviously there are many unknowns right now. I do t pretend to have answers. But the predictions of deaths and hospitalizations early on I thought were far too high. And I think many of the predictions made even today are still too high and based on fear.
Time will tell but I fully expect the deaths and hospitalizations when all is said and done will be much smaller than many people think.
I’m also interested in seeing the data down the road when they know more about many of us who have had the virus and had no idea. I think when they are able to go back and analyze the data and consider all of these cases it will really put this entire thing in perspective.
That said, I’m fine following the rules laid out for us if it means we’re back up and running! Closures are now until the 17th of April and I am more than ready to get back to normal!