Griz#64 said:Down and Distance really can dictate safety positioning. If he has corners that can help over the top, he can become kind of a rover, and see i told you it has been a long time. Thanks for kinda bring me up to speed. In addition to a wide out and a motion receiver. creating a wipe, or brush-off?? they make it damn tough on corners, and LB;ers
FireGriz said:Regardless of the scheme, results indicate either a play calling deficit or an execution failure. I’m less concerned with the minutia of cloud coverages and man carry through zones than I am with opposing receivers running free with no one within 10 yards of them.
I really do think this game would have been quite different if Cotton hadn’t been injured. Dude was having a pretty good game up to that point.
nzone said:So 223 you call out a poster for showing frustration, call him uniformed, ask him questions but offer no explanation. So please correct him about coverages etc..with some answers.
Go Griz!
Griz#64 said:Kudos to Missoula 223, and FireGriz, both college coaches i assume. I was lucky to coach "old Sketchy Hi". Go Griz . Just having fun guys Lighten up. Griz are Back , balls to the wall..
Missoula223 said:Griz#64 said:Kudos to Missoula 223, and FireGriz, both college coaches i assume. I was lucky to coach "old Sketchy Hi". Go Griz . Just having fun guys Lighten up. Griz are Back , balls to the wall..
All good my man. Go griz.
FireGriz said:Missoula223 said:Griz#64 said:Kudos to Missoula 223, and FireGriz, both college coaches i assume. I was lucky to coach "old Sketchy Hi". Go Griz . Just having fun guys Lighten up. Griz are Back , balls to the wall..
All good my man. Go griz.
I wasn’t trying to be an ass, and you make a good point 223. We have played a few quality offenses.
I would politely posit that Griz safeties have been repeatedly exposed by those good offenses. On numerous occasions the safeties have been caught cheating up and burnt by wideouts running both combo routes and simple post routes. One could make the case that the common denominator in these failures week to week has been the decision for the safeties to play nearer to the line of scrimmage than conventional wisdom might suggest. As I’m not privy to the inner workings of the Griz defensive scheme, I can only make assumptions as to the root cause of that positioning.
jcu27 said:If you don't know what his assignment is, how can you call him wrong? Assumptions on both sides. Neither knowing what the hell they're talking about because neither know what he was suppose to be doing. :lol:
FireGriz said:jcu27 said:If you don't know what his assignment is, how can you call him wrong? Assumptions on both sides. Neither knowing what the hell they're talking about because neither know what he was suppose to be doing. :lol:
We can all correctly assume that trailing the TE or WR by 10 yards as the guy catches a TD wasn’t the assignment.
Thanks for playing.
Missoula223 said:FireGriz said:Missoula223 said:Griz#64 said:Kudos to Missoula 223, and FireGriz, both college coaches i assume. I was lucky to coach "old Sketchy Hi". Go Griz . Just having fun guys Lighten up. Griz are Back , balls to the wall..
All good my man. Go griz.
I wasn’t trying to be an ass, and you make a good point 223. We have played a few quality offenses.
I would politely posit that Griz safeties have been repeatedly exposed by those good offenses. On numerous occasions the safeties have been caught cheating up and burnt by wideouts running both combo routes and simple post routes. One could make the case that the common denominator in these failures week to week has been the decision for the safeties to play nearer to the line of scrimmage than conventional wisdom might suggest. As I’m not privy to the inner workings of the Griz defensive scheme, I can only make assumptions as to the root cause of that positioning.
I get where you're coming from. I also think griz coaches expect safeties to play tight and challenge guys to beat them through the air, which is going to happen at times when you have an aggressive mentality like that.
SoldierGriz said:Missoula223 said:FireGriz said:Missoula223 said:All good my man. Go griz.
I wasn’t trying to be an ass, and you make a good point 223. We have played a few quality offenses.
I would politely posit that Griz safeties have been repeatedly exposed by those good offenses. On numerous occasions the safeties have been caught cheating up and burnt by wideouts running both combo routes and simple post routes. One could make the case that the common denominator in these failures week to week has been the decision for the safeties to play nearer to the line of scrimmage than conventional wisdom might suggest. As I’m not privy to the inner workings of the Griz defensive scheme, I can only make assumptions as to the root cause of that positioning.
I get where you're coming from. I also think griz coaches expect safeties to play tight and challenge guys to beat them through the air, which is going to happen at times when you have an aggressive mentality like that.
This is what I think as well. Priority 1 is stopping the run.
PlayerRep said:FireGriz said:jcu27 said:If you don't know what his assignment is, how can you call him wrong? Assumptions on both sides. Neither knowing what the hell they're talking about because neither know what he was suppose to be doing. :lol:
We can all correctly assume that trailing the TE or WR by 10 yards as the guy catches a TD wasn’t the assignment.
Thanks for playing.
How do you know that another player was not supposed to be covering the deep zone or providing over the top help? People who don’t know secondary play often (incorrectly) assume that the player trailing the receiver from way behind, got beat or made a mistake. In fact, the mistake was often made by another player.
What I think when I see a comment like this is that the person making the comment doesn’t understand the game.
FireGriz said:SoldierGriz said:Missoula223 said:FireGriz said:I wasn’t trying to be an ass, and you make a good point 223. We have played a few quality offenses.
I would politely posit that Griz safeties have been repeatedly exposed by those good offenses. On numerous occasions the safeties have been caught cheating up and burnt by wideouts running both combo routes and simple post routes. One could make the case that the common denominator in these failures week to week has been the decision for the safeties to play nearer to the line of scrimmage than conventional wisdom might suggest. As I’m not privy to the inner workings of the Griz defensive scheme, I can only make assumptions as to the root cause of that positioning.
I get where you're coming from. I also think griz coaches expect safeties to play tight and challenge guys to beat them through the air, which is going to happen at times when you have an aggressive mentality like that.
This is what I think as well. Priority 1 is stopping the run.
Priority 1 is preventing the other team from scoring and the stats would indicate that playing the safeties close to the line isn’t as effective as one would like.
Missoula223 said:FireGriz said:SoldierGriz said:Missoula223 said:I get where you're coming from. I also think griz coaches expect safeties to play tight and challenge guys to beat them through the air, which is going to happen at times when you have an aggressive mentality like that.
This is what I think as well. Priority 1 is stopping the run.
Priority 1 is preventing the other team from scoring and the stats would indicate that playing the safeties close to the line isn’t as effective as one would like.
Maybe to you that's the priority. Some coaches care more about beating the shit out of guys for a few quarters knowing that those plays won't be made if a guy is worried about getting hit.
This ideology may lead to our numbers in the2nd half and 4th quarter.