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Griz have one of toughest schedules in FCS

Spanky2 said:
A financial commitment of 63 full ride scholarships to play Division 2 type teams is of tremendous benefit to the university and fans. Actual Division 2 membership with a commitment of 36 full ride scholarships would be more practical for UM.

I would be all for them dropping the program if you would shut the fukc up.
 
grizindabox said:
Spanky2 said:
A financial commitment of 63 full ride scholarships to play Division 2 type teams is of tremendous benefit to the university and fans. Actual Division 2 membership with a commitment of 36 full ride scholarships would be more practical for UM.

I would be all for them dropping the program if you would shut the fukc up.
Goodness. Such bad language....and hostile!
 
WaGriz4life said:
PlayerRep said:
Spanky2 said:
Listening to opponents of scheduling FBS teams, most of our team will be out for the season after the Oregon game due to injuries.

Not to worry. No Griz ever gets hurt playing Oregon:

Injuries after Oregon game in 2005. 12 injuries going into the next week.

"The most important loss is linebacker Loren Utterback, a starter on the strong side. His father Brad confirmed on Tuesday that the 218-pound sophomore suffered a broken foot with around eight minutes left in the game. The Fort Benton product had surgery Monday, and will be out 6-8 weeks.

At Montana's weekly press conference, head coach Bobby Hauck noted 12 injuries, without giving specifics.

Hauck listed defensive tackle Alan Saenz, defensive end Mike Murphy, corners Quentin Jackson and Tuff Harris and receiver Jon Talmage as probable; safety Colt Anderson, defensive tackle Jesse Carlson and guard Jason Frink as questionable; and corner Chris Clark, running back JR Waller and Utterback doubtful; and safety Jake McCarthy, who was hurt on the opening kickoff, as out."
That is rough, don’t remember that many injuries. I should have clarified I don’t remember one guy we lost for the year in one of those games.

I was at a griz vs Washington state game in Pullman and we lost our kick returner not only for the season but forever on the opening kickoff, it was brutal.
 
indian-outlaw said:
WaGriz4life said:
PlayerRep said:
Spanky2 said:
Listening to opponents of scheduling FBS teams, most of our team will be out for the season after the Oregon game due to injuries.

Not to worry. No Griz ever gets hurt playing Oregon:

Injuries after Oregon game in 2005. 12 injuries going into the next week.

"The most important loss is linebacker Loren Utterback, a starter on the strong side. His father Brad confirmed on Tuesday that the 218-pound sophomore suffered a broken foot with around eight minutes left in the game. The Fort Benton product had surgery Monday, and will be out 6-8 weeks.

At Montana's weekly press conference, head coach Bobby Hauck noted 12 injuries, without giving specifics.

Hauck listed defensive tackle Alan Saenz, defensive end Mike Murphy, corners Quentin Jackson and Tuff Harris and receiver Jon Talmage as probable; safety Colt Anderson, defensive tackle Jesse Carlson and guard Jason Frink as questionable; and corner Chris Clark, running back JR Waller and Utterback doubtful; and safety Jake McCarthy, who was hurt on the opening kickoff, as out."
That is rough, don’t remember that many injuries. I should have clarified I don’t remember one guy we lost for the year in one of those games.

I was at a griz vs Washington state game in Pullman and we lost our kick returner not only for the season but forever on the opening kickoff, it was brutal.

Was there as well. If not for a phantom offensive pass interference call on a touchdown to take the lead, Griz might have won that game.
 
horribilisfan8184 said:
indian-outlaw said:
WaGriz4life said:
PlayerRep said:
Not to worry. No Griz ever gets hurt playing Oregon:

Injuries after Oregon game in 2005. 12 injuries going into the next week.

"The most important loss is linebacker Loren Utterback, a starter on the strong side. His father Brad confirmed on Tuesday that the 218-pound sophomore suffered a broken foot with around eight minutes left in the game. The Fort Benton product had surgery Monday, and will be out 6-8 weeks.

At Montana's weekly press conference, head coach Bobby Hauck noted 12 injuries, without giving specifics.

Hauck listed defensive tackle Alan Saenz, defensive end Mike Murphy, corners Quentin Jackson and Tuff Harris and receiver Jon Talmage as probable; safety Colt Anderson, defensive tackle Jesse Carlson and guard Jason Frink as questionable; and corner Chris Clark, running back JR Waller and Utterback doubtful; and safety Jake McCarthy, who was hurt on the opening kickoff, as out."
That is rough, don’t remember that many injuries. I should have clarified I don’t remember one guy we lost for the year in one of those games.

I was at a griz vs Washington state game in Pullman and we lost our kick returner not only for the season but forever on the opening kickoff, it was brutal.

Was there as well. If not for a phantom offensive pass interference call on a touchdown to take the lead, Griz might have won that game.
I don't remember that. We lost by a couple of touchdowns. I wish I could remember the name of our kick returner that was hammered so hard.
 
HookedonGriz said:
Heroes sports used some criteria to rank the teams who have the toughest schedule. They put the Griz at number 16. There are two other teams ahead of them in the big sky with Sac State and Southern Utah

https://m.herosports.com/fcs/football-2019-toughest-schedules-bzbz

This is no better than a preseason poll. It means nothing. You won't know until the END of the season if the schedule is tough. What are they basing this on? Results from last year? Polls from this preseason? This is nothing more than an attempt by egrizzers to pass off another miserable season in mediocrity before it even plays out. Last season, MSU played the #1,2,3 and 6 teams in the LAST NCAA poll. That's a tough schedule. They also played and beat their rival, UM in Missoula and won of course. Compare that to the 2019 UM schedule at the end of this season and then let's talk.....what a complete crock!
 
Bear Spray said:
HookedonGriz said:
Heroes sports used some criteria to rank the teams who have the toughest schedule. They put the Griz at number 16. There are two other teams ahead of them in the big sky with Sac State and Southern Utah

https://m.herosports.com/fcs/football-2019-toughest-schedules-bzbz

This is no better than a preseason poll. It means nothing. You won't know until the END of the season if the schedule is tough. What are they basing this on? Results from last year? Polls from this preseason? This is nothing more than an attempt by egrizzers to pass off another miserable season in mediocrity before it even plays out. Last season, MSU played the #1,2,3 and 6 teams in the LAST NCAA poll. That's a tough schedule. They also played and beat their rival, UM in Missoula and won of course. Compare that to the 2019 UM schedule at the end of this season and then let's talk.....what a complete crock!
Uh - eGrizzers did not create this poll in case you missed that detail. And of course it means nothing.
 
kemajic said:
Bear Spray said:
HookedonGriz said:
Heroes sports used some criteria to rank the teams who have the toughest schedule. They put the Griz at number 16. There are two other teams ahead of them in the big sky with Sac State and Southern Utah

https://m.herosports.com/fcs/football-2019-toughest-schedules-bzbz

This is no better than a preseason poll. It means nothing. You won't know until the END of the season if the schedule is tough. What are they basing this on? Results from last year? Polls from this preseason? This is nothing more than an attempt by egrizzers to pass off another miserable season in mediocrity before it even plays out. Last season, MSU played the #1,2,3 and 6 teams in the LAST NCAA poll. That's a tough schedule. They also played and beat their rival, UM in Missoula and won of course. Compare that to the 2019 UM schedule at the end of this season and then let's talk.....what a complete crock!
Uh - eGrizzers did not create this poll in case you missed that detail. And of course it means nothing.

“Some people have a way with words, and other people...oh, uh, not have way.”

― Steve Martin
 
kemajic said:
Bear Spray said:
HookedonGriz said:
Heroes sports used some criteria to rank the teams who have the toughest schedule. They put the Griz at number 16. There are two other teams ahead of them in the big sky with Sac State and Southern Utah

https://m.herosports.com/fcs/football-2019-toughest-schedules-bzbz

This is no better than a preseason poll. It means nothing. You won't know until the END of the season if the schedule is tough. What are they basing this on? Results from last year? Polls from this preseason? This is nothing more than an attempt by egrizzers to pass off another miserable season in mediocrity before it even plays out. Last season, MSU played the #1,2,3 and 6 teams in the LAST NCAA poll. That's a tough schedule. They also played and beat their rival, UM in Missoula and won of course. Compare that to the 2019 UM schedule at the end of this season and then let's talk.....what a complete crock!
Uh - eGrizzers did not create this poll in case you missed that detail. And of course it means nothing.

whoa whoa whoa....

do you mean to tell me pre-season polls don't mean anything?! :shock:

this is devastating. :(
 
Bear Spray said:
HookedonGriz said:
Heroes sports used some criteria to rank the teams who have the toughest schedule. They put the Griz at number 16. There are two other teams ahead of them in the big sky with Sac State and Southern Utah

https://m.herosports.com/fcs/football-2019-toughest-schedules-bzbz

This is no better than a preseason poll. It means nothing. You won't know until the END of the season if the schedule is tough. What are they basing this on? Results from last year? Polls from this preseason? This is nothing more than an attempt by egrizzers to pass off another miserable season in mediocrity before it even plays out. Last season, MSU played the #1,2,3 and 6 teams in the LAST NCAA poll. That's a tough schedule. They also played and beat their rival, UM in Missoula and won of course. Compare that to the 2019 UM schedule at the end of this season and then let's talk.....what a complete crock!

Cat fans are not smart. You just dismissed this guy’s choices for toughest schedule as meaningless and states they can’t be based on the previous polls. Then one sentence later you go on about how the cats had a tough schedule...based on last year’s polls. Make up your mind cat troll.
 
HookedonGriz said:
Bear Spray said:
HookedonGriz said:
Heroes sports used some criteria to rank the teams who have the toughest schedule. They put the Griz at number 16. There are two other teams ahead of them in the big sky with Sac State and Southern Utah

https://m.herosports.com/fcs/football-2019-toughest-schedules-bzbz

This is no better than a preseason poll. It means nothing. You won't know until the END of the season if the schedule is tough. What are they basing this on? Results from last year? Polls from this preseason? This is nothing more than an attempt by egrizzers to pass off another miserable season in mediocrity before it even plays out. Last season, MSU played the #1,2,3 and 6 teams in the LAST NCAA poll. That's a tough schedule. They also played and beat their rival, UM in Missoula and won of course. Compare that to the 2019 UM schedule at the end of this season and then let's talk.....what a complete crock!

Cat fans are not smart. You just dismissed this guy’s choices for toughest schedule as meaningless and states they can’t be based on the previous polls. Then one sentence later you go on about how the cats had a tough schedule...based on last year’s polls. Make up your mind cat troll.

Hooked, sober up and read my post again. I agree with most on egriz that preseason polls are worthless. My point is that the only poll that makes sense is the last one - at the end of the season - when the games have all been played. You won't know if the griz have a tough schedule until all the games are played.
 
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Sirmon is huge. The Anderson kid is also larger. Twins looking pretty good as well. Hell, everyone looks great. :thumb:
 
SaskGriz said:
WaGriz4life said:
Spanky2 said:
Listening to opponents of scheduling FBS teams, most of our team will be out for the season after the Oregon game due to injuries.
Who are players we have lost while playing playing an FBS team? I can’t think of ANY. Football does not become more dangerous when you play a better team.

I cover this in another post but in the last 5 play up games going back to 2005, we lost Loren Utterbeck for a few games and our punter for the season in 2006. In the last 3 games (Tennessee, Wyoming, and UW) we haven't lost a starter for more than the next game and the Griz are undefeated in those next games. Of course I did all this work because I'm trying to show actual evidence to PlayerRep, which is a waste of time because "I never played the game".

How many snaps has Rensvold taken since Oregon game? Hmmm wonder why.

If the Griz played against 1st graders, would the 1st graders be more likely to get hurt than if they played against other 1st graders?

If we had played another FCS opponent, would we more likely have won or lost that game? I think a win in that game would make us currently undefeated which is great I guess, but FBS losses are also really cool to have.
 
Six Big Sky Conference teams and one soon to not be (North Dakota) made the list.

A few egrizzers complain that conference foes aren't trying to up their game but I'm seeing fewer home games vs. D2 opponents and more challenging non-conference games on the road vs. FBS and fellow FCS teams.
 
Missoula223 said:
SaskGriz said:
WaGriz4life said:
Spanky2 said:
Listening to opponents of scheduling FBS teams, most of our team will be out for the season after the Oregon game due to injuries.
Who are players we have lost while playing playing an FBS team? I can’t think of ANY. Football does not become more dangerous when you play a better team.

I cover this in another post but in the last 5 play up games going back to 2005, we lost Loren Utterbeck for a few games and our punter for the season in 2006. In the last 3 games (Tennessee, Wyoming, and UW) we haven't lost a starter for more than the next game and the Griz are undefeated in those next games. Of course I did all this work because I'm trying to show actual evidence to PlayerRep, which is a waste of time because "I never played the game".

How many snaps has Rensvold taken since Oregon game? Hmmm wonder why.

If the Griz played against 1st graders, would the 1st graders be more likely to get hurt than if they played against other 1st graders?

If we had played another FCS opponent, would we more likely have won or lost that game? I think a win in that game would make us currently undefeated which is great I guess, but FBS losses are also really cool to have.
Playing Oregon, and playing well, has made us a better football team. Our ranking improved and Oregon's went down. There has yet to be any statistically significant data provided that playing FBS games increases injuries. If all you can claim is an anecdote (Rensvold), I can counter with Phillips, who played the Washington game (where we did not play well) without incident, then went down the next week to a career-ending injury to Savannah St.
 
retiredpopo said:
retiredpopo said:
then we should move up the polls pretty fast. Should be about #3 by the 5th game.

looks like I am off by a game or two but after next week should be there.

We're probably not getting to 3 unless we beat Weber without losing before, should move up in two weeks when NDSU plays the Jacks and one of them drops down. But if JMU or Weber wants to shit the bed that would be ok too. Also...we have our own work to do.
 
kemajic said:
Missoula223 said:
SaskGriz said:
WaGriz4life said:
Who are players we have lost while playing playing an FBS team? I can’t think of ANY. Football does not become more dangerous when you play a better team.

I cover this in another post but in the last 5 play up games going back to 2005, we lost Loren Utterbeck for a few games and our punter for the season in 2006. In the last 3 games (Tennessee, Wyoming, and UW) we haven't lost a starter for more than the next game and the Griz are undefeated in those next games. Of course I did all this work because I'm trying to show actual evidence to PlayerRep, which is a waste of time because "I never played the game".

How many snaps has Rensvold taken since Oregon game? Hmmm wonder why.

If the Griz played against 1st graders, would the 1st graders be more likely to get hurt than if they played against other 1st graders?

If we had played another FCS opponent, would we more likely have won or lost that game? I think a win in that game would make us currently undefeated which is great I guess, but FBS losses are also really cool to have.
Playing Oregon, and playing well, has made us a better football team. Our ranking improved and Oregon's went down. There has yet to be any statistically significant data provided that playing FBS games increases injuries. If all you can claim is an anecdote (Rensvold), I can counter with Phillips, who played the Washington game (where we did not play well) without incident, then went down the next week to a career-ending injury to Savannah St.

Exactly. The counter argument has zero merit.
 
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