hokeyfine said:PlayerRep said:I think the family might rather have a bigger or new yacht, plane or house. UM should be careful going to that well too often. I would focus on the academic side with them. UM needs $30 or $40 million for academics more than an indoor practice faculty. In my view.
i totally agree with this comment. it's nice to dream about an indoor practice facility, but the reality is that um needs money for academics. The budget isn't balanced yet, enrollment is still falling, etc. i would hope that bodner's focus isn't anywhere near athletic facilities.
66volvo said:https://a.msn.com/r/2/AACkPtU?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare
Well heck, if Northwestern can pony up $270M for their emerging athletics, then why can't we?
Badjuju said:hokeyfine said:PlayerRep said:I think the family might rather have a bigger or new yacht, plane or house. UM should be careful going to that well too often. I would focus on the academic side with them. UM needs $30 or $40 million for academics more than an indoor practice faculty. In my view.
i totally agree with this comment. it's nice to dream about an indoor practice facility, but the reality is that um needs money for academics. The budget isn't balanced yet, enrollment is still falling, etc. i would hope that bodner's focus isn't anywhere near athletic facilities.
I also agree with the comment. I know for a fact, some football players have dismissed the griz because of the academic reasons. Not just losing curriculum, but professors as well! Not good!
tourist said:George Ferguson said:kemajic said:If I recall correctly, the $34MM project was far more than an indoor practice facility. It housed the indoor track and some other (expensive) amenities.
Correct, the facility they want to build will have a full indoor track, that can host meets, a full 100-yard football/soccer field, a softball practice area, offices, lockerrooms, and something else the program needs badly, a full-scale medical training and recovery facility. That facility was originally part of the Champions Center's original vision but was scrapped when it bumped the price tag to well over $20 million. The football program needs that as much as they need the indoor facility imho. It's another part of what recruits really look hard at these days which is why MSU is including that in its football ops building that's getting closer to a reality.
I have heard that the idea to include ALL of this in one facility is not only because the athletic department needs it all, but because they believe it will peak the interest of donors outside of the usual heavy hitters focused only on the football program. Believe it or not, there are some very wealthy track and field enthusiasts out there. See what one track and field enthusiast did for Glendive!
I have also heard that if they just wanted to put up a steel building at the South Campus complex that would house a 50 or even 100-yard field, and that's it, it would have been done a long time ago, but, it would essentially be for the football and soccer team to practice in with room for nothing else and THAT'S IT, and that's not what UM wants to do. They have decided to go for the big facility on the main campus that would benefit virtually the entire athletic department. And from what I have heard, just recently as a matter of fact, it's a longgggggggg way off, if ever.
I don't recall that the track and field team, the soccer team, or any UM team other than the football team ever attracted 26,000 fans to any of its events. Administration may want a Taj Mahal facility, but putting the football program on indefinite hold for its needs is idiotic. Football is the money maker. Nurture it and the others will benefit in the loooooooong run.
George Ferguson said:kemajic said:If I recall correctly, the $34MM project was far more than an indoor practice facility. It housed the indoor track and some other (expensive) amenities.
Correct, the facility they want to build will have a full indoor track, that can host meets, a full 100-yard football/soccer field, a softball practice area, offices, lockerrooms, and something else the program needs badly, a full-scale medical training and recovery facility. That facility was originally part of the Champions Center's original vision but was scrapped when it bumped the price tag to well over $20 million. The football program needs that as much as they need the indoor facility imho. It's another part of what recruits really look hard at these days which is why MSU is including that in its football ops building that's getting closer to a reality.
I have heard that the idea to include ALL of this in one facility is not only because the athletic department needs it all, but because they believe it will peak the interest of donors outside of the usual heavy hitters focused only on the football program. Believe it or not, there are some very wealthy track and field enthusiasts out there. See what one track and field enthusiast did for Glendive!
I have also heard that if they just wanted to put up a steel building at the South Campus complex that would house a 50 or even 100-yard field, and that's it, it would have been done a long time ago, but, it would essentially be for the football and soccer team to practice in with room for nothing else and THAT'S IT, and that's not what UM wants to do. They have decided to go for the big facility on the main campus that would benefit virtually the entire athletic department. And from what I have heard, just recently as a matter of fact, it's a longgggggggg way off, if ever.
tourist said:George Ferguson said:kemajic said:If I recall correctly, the $34MM project was far more than an indoor practice facility. It housed the indoor track and some other (expensive) amenities.
Correct, the facility they want to build will have a full indoor track, that can host meets, a full 100-yard football/soccer field, a softball practice area, offices, lockerrooms, and something else the program needs badly, a full-scale medical training and recovery facility. That facility was originally part of the Champions Center's original vision but was scrapped when it bumped the price tag to well over $20 million. The football program needs that as much as they need the indoor facility imho. It's another part of what recruits really look hard at these days which is why MSU is including that in its football ops building that's getting closer to a reality.
I have heard that the idea to include ALL of this in one facility is not only because the athletic department needs it all, but because they believe it will peak the interest of donors outside of the usual heavy hitters focused only on the football program. Believe it or not, there are some very wealthy track and field enthusiasts out there. See what one track and field enthusiast did for Glendive!
I have also heard that if they just wanted to put up a steel building at the South Campus complex that would house a 50 or even 100-yard field, and that's it, it would have been done a long time ago, but, it would essentially be for the football and soccer team to practice in with room for nothing else and THAT'S IT, and that's not what UM wants to do. They have decided to go for the big facility on the main campus that would benefit virtually the entire athletic department. And from what I have heard, just recently as a matter of fact, it's a longgggggggg way off, if ever.
I don't recall that the track and field team, the soccer team, or any UM team other than the football team ever attracted 26,000 fans to any of its events. Administration may want a Taj Mahal facility, but putting the football program on indefinite hold for its needs is idiotic. Football is the money maker. Nurture it and the others will benefit in the loooooooong run.
227GRIZ said:Alabama Grizzly said:Neither does the football team unless another Montana team is involved.
Not true 7 out of 10 times
1 26,508 Montana 25, Montana State 29 Nov. 17, 2018
2 26,472 Montana 38, North Dakota State 35 Aug. 29, 2015
3 26,352 Montana 34, Montana State 7 Nov. 22, 2014
4 26,303 Montana 28, South Dakota 20 Sept. 13, 2014
5 26,293 Montana 30, Appalachian State 6 Aug. 31, 2013
6 26,136 Montana 23, Northern Arizona 14 Sept. 26, 2015
7 26,082 Montana 37, Eastern Washington 42 Oct. 26, 2013
8 26,066 Montana 17, Eastern Washington 14 Sept. 17, 2011
9 26,065 Montana 19, Cal Poly 20 Sept. 5, 2015
10 26,019 Montana 16, Montana State 21 Nov. 20, 2010
BadlandsGrizFan said:tourist said:George Ferguson said:They have decided to go for the big facility on the main campus that would benefit virtually the entire athletic department. And from what I have heard, just recently as a matter of fact, it's a longgggggggg way off, if ever.kemajic said:If I recall correctly, the $34MM project was far more than an indoor practice facility. It housed the indoor track and some other (expensive) amenities.
I don't recall that the track and field team, the soccer team, or any UM team other than the football team ever attracted 26,000 fans to any of its events. Administration may want a Taj Mahal facility, but putting the football program on indefinite hold for its needs is idiotic. Football is the money maker. Nurture it and the others will benefit in the loooooooong run.
In my opinion they should just be looking at a large field, that Football, soccer, track, softball, could all use for a place to do cardio, hit grounders, practice football under a big bubble with lights. Nothing more, nothing less. Just a place to get out of the elements to train and practice.
mcg said:Is it true that the Champions Center still has $5 million left to pay off?
getgrizzy said:Badjuju said:hokeyfine said:PlayerRep said:I think the family might rather have a bigger or new yacht, plane or house. UM should be careful going to that well too often. I would focus on the academic side with them. UM needs $30 or $40 million for academics more than an indoor practice faculty. In my view.
i totally agree with this comment. it's nice to dream about an indoor practice facility, but the reality is that um needs money for academics. The budget isn't balanced yet, enrollment is still falling, etc. i would hope that bodner's focus isn't anywhere near athletic facilities.
I also agree with the comment. I know for a fact, some football players have dismissed the griz because of the academic reasons. Not just losing curriculum, but professors as well! Not good!
Hog wash! Like how many 1 or 2?
Badjuju said:getgrizzy said:Badjuju said:hokeyfine said:i totally agree with this comment. it's nice to dream about an indoor practice facility, but the reality is that um needs money for academics. The budget isn't balanced yet, enrollment is still falling, etc. i would hope that bodner's focus isn't anywhere near athletic facilities.
I also agree with the comment. I know for a fact, some football players have dismissed the griz because of the academic reasons. Not just losing curriculum, but professors as well! Not good!
Hog wash! Like how many 1 or 2?
I guess we will see how many of the top athletes in the state end up going to UM. Might have a little to do with the recruiting style, I'm told, but that along with the decreasing curriculum doesn't bode well for the griz. You can't blame some of the smarter, "star" athletes for actually wanting to walk away with a real degree. Career options are a deciding factor in choosing a college, believe it or not!
Badjuju said:getgrizzy said:Badjuju said:hokeyfine said:i totally agree with this comment. it's nice to dream about an indoor practice facility, but the reality is that um needs money for academics. The budget isn't balanced yet, enrollment is still falling, etc. i would hope that bodner's focus isn't anywhere near athletic facilities.
I also agree with the comment. I know for a fact, some football players have dismissed the griz because of the academic reasons. Not just losing curriculum, but professors as well! Not good!
Hog wash! Like how many 1 or 2?
I guess we will see how many of the top athletes in the state end up going to UM. Might have a little to do with the recruiting style, I'm told, but that along with the decreasing curriculum doesn't bode well for the griz. You can't blame some of the smarter, "star" athletes for actually wanting to walk away with a real degree. Career options are a deciding factor in choosing a college, believe it or not!