GRAD Transfer: G- Jahshire Hardnett (BYU)

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Re: GRAD Transfer: G- Jahshire Hardnett (BYU)

Post by grizpsych » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:51 pm

Just a note. You can apply as a non degree seeking graduate student at the UM.

http://catalog.umt.edu/academics/admission/graduate/
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Re: GRAD Transfer: G- Jahshire Hardnett (BYU)

Post by maroonandsilver » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:55 pm

grizpsych wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:51 pm
Just a note. You can apply as a non degree seeking graduate student at the UM.

http://catalog.umt.edu/academics/admission/graduate/
Is that acceptable to the NCAA?

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Re: GRAD Transfer: G- Jahshire Hardnett (BYU)

Post by grizpsych » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:03 pm

maroonandsilver wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:55 pm
grizpsych wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:51 pm
Just a note. You can apply as a non degree seeking graduate student at the UM.

http://catalog.umt.edu/academics/admission/graduate/
Is that acceptable to the NCAA?
I have no idea. But, my guess is that the answer is yes. I'll see if I can find out.

Edit: This link is in no way has a definitive answer. But, I think it supports the conclusion that grad transfers don;t have to be degree seeking given that most grad transfers do no tend up getting a graduate degree.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/res ... division-i

Edit 2: This question and answer page makes it seem like you can only do a graduate transfer if you are pursuing a program that you current school does not offer. Here is the wording.

"Q: Are there different rules for graduate students?

A: Student-athletes who have graduated are subject to the same release requirements as undergraduates and must have at least one year of eligibility remaining. To be eligible for the one-time transfer exception, football, basketball, baseball and men’s ice hockey student athletes must have been denied a scholarship renewal at their original school. If the student-athlete wishes to pursue a degree program not offered at the original institution, he or she is eligible for a waiver to compete immediately at the new school."

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/med ... -transfers

I would like to point out that pursuing a graduate program and being accepted into a graduate program are two different things, in my opinion. Thus, I still think there is an argument here for a student to enroll as a non-declared graduate student pursuing a program that is not at their current school. However, I would guess this would have to be hammered out in the courts.
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Re: GRAD Transfer: G- Jahshire Hardnett (BYU)

Post by AZDoc » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:57 pm

grizpsych wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:03 pm
maroonandsilver wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:55 pm
grizpsych wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:51 pm
Just a note. You can apply as a non degree seeking graduate student at the UM.

http://catalog.umt.edu/academics/admission/graduate/
Is that acceptable to the NCAA?
I have no idea. But, my guess is that the answer is yes. I'll see if I can find out.

Edit: This link is in no way has a definitive answer. But, I think it supports the conclusion that grad transfers don;t have to be degree seeking given that most grad transfers do no tend up getting a graduate degree.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/res ... division-i

Edit 2: This question and answer page makes it seem like you can only do a graduate transfer if you are pursuing a program that you current school does not offer. Here is the wording.

"Q: Are there different rules for graduate students?

A: Student-athletes who have graduated are subject to the same release requirements as undergraduates and must have at least one year of eligibility remaining. To be eligible for the one-time transfer exception, football, basketball, baseball and men’s ice hockey student athletes must have been denied a scholarship renewal at their original school. If the student-athlete wishes to pursue a degree program not offered at the original institution, he or she is eligible for a waiver to compete immediately at the new school."

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/med ... -transfers

I would like to point out that pursuing a graduate program and being accepted into a graduate program are two different things, in my opinion. Thus, I still think there is an argument here for a student to enroll as a non-declared graduate student pursuing a program that is not at their current school. However, I would guess this would have to be hammered out in the courts.
That's interesting...I thought the loophole was the university you were transferring to had to have a graduate program not offered my your current institution. Perhaps that's how it was initially and they have changed it to make it easier.
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Re: GRAD Transfer: G- Jahshire Hardnett (BYU)

Post by AZDoc » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:58 pm

AZDoc wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:57 pm
grizpsych wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:03 pm
maroonandsilver wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:55 pm
grizpsych wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:51 pm
Just a note. You can apply as a non degree seeking graduate student at the UM.

http://catalog.umt.edu/academics/admission/graduate/
Is that acceptable to the NCAA?
I have no idea. But, my guess is that the answer is yes. I'll see if I can find out.

Edit: This link is in no way has a definitive answer. But, I think it supports the conclusion that grad transfers don;t have to be degree seeking given that most grad transfers do no tend up getting a graduate degree.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/res ... division-i

Edit 2: This question and answer page makes it seem like you can only do a graduate transfer if you are pursuing a program that you current school does not offer. Here is the wording.

"Q: Are there different rules for graduate students?

A: Student-athletes who have graduated are subject to the same release requirements as undergraduates and must have at least one year of eligibility remaining. To be eligible for the one-time transfer exception, football, basketball, baseball and men’s ice hockey student athletes must have been denied a scholarship renewal at their original school. If the student-athlete wishes to pursue a degree program not offered at the original institution, he or she is eligible for a waiver to compete immediately at the new school."

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/med ... -transfers

I would like to point out that pursuing a graduate program and being accepted into a graduate program are two different things, in my opinion. Thus, I still think there is an argument here for a student to enroll as a non-declared graduate student pursuing a program that is not at their current school. However, I would guess this would have to be hammered out in the courts.
That's interesting...I thought the loophole was the university you were transferring to had to have a graduate program not offered my your current institution. Perhaps that's how it was initially and they have changed it to make it easier.
AAAAAND...I should read the entire post before posting hahahaha
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Re: GRAD Transfer: G- Jahshire Hardnett (BYU)

Post by grizpsych » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:35 pm

AZDoc wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:58 pm
AZDoc wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:57 pm
grizpsych wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:03 pm
maroonandsilver wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:55 pm


Is that acceptable to the NCAA?
I have no idea. But, my guess is that the answer is yes. I'll see if I can find out.

Edit: This link is in no way has a definitive answer. But, I think it supports the conclusion that grad transfers don;t have to be degree seeking given that most grad transfers do no tend up getting a graduate degree.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/res ... division-i

Edit 2: This question and answer page makes it seem like you can only do a graduate transfer if you are pursuing a program that you current school does not offer. Here is the wording.

"Q: Are there different rules for graduate students?

A: Student-athletes who have graduated are subject to the same release requirements as undergraduates and must have at least one year of eligibility remaining. To be eligible for the one-time transfer exception, football, basketball, baseball and men’s ice hockey student athletes must have been denied a scholarship renewal at their original school. If the student-athlete wishes to pursue a degree program not offered at the original institution, he or she is eligible for a waiver to compete immediately at the new school."

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/med ... -transfers

I would like to point out that pursuing a graduate program and being accepted into a graduate program are two different things, in my opinion. Thus, I still think there is an argument here for a student to enroll as a non-declared graduate student pursuing a program that is not at their current school. However, I would guess this would have to be hammered out in the courts.
That's interesting...I thought the loophole was the university you were transferring to had to have a graduate program not offered my your current institution. Perhaps that's how it was initially and they have changed it to make it easier.
AAAAAND...I should read the entire post before posting hahahaha
Ha. I was just about to reply to your last post!
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Re: GRAD Transfer: G- Jahshire Hardnett (BYU)

Post by grizzlyjournal » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:02 pm

Hardnett makes final decision: UMKC.


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Re: GRAD Transfer: G- Jahshire Hardnett (BYU)

Post by WaGriz4life » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:31 pm

Honestly, I think this kid realized he wasn’t going to be the star player transfer he thought he was going to be, I think that could be part of it. Some guys just want to be The Guy at a school at some point, and I don’t really blame them.

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