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Re: Akoh

Post by go96griz » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:15 pm

UMFan12 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:58 pm
go96griz wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:31 pm
Unfortunately, Akoh is done for the season and he has already undergone surgery. Big loss, time to retool the team for a run with a smaller and quicker rotation. They will miss Akoh for match ups against big teams due to the huge drop off in talent and size down low.
Is that official or just a rumor?
Confirmed, surgery on knee for meniscus tear.

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Re: Akoh

Post by HookedonGriz » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:55 pm

Like I said. If Decuire wins the conference tourney now with no Akoh, extend him 20 years and give him any $ amount he wants. Would be the finest work of a head coach almost ever. In Decuire I trust! You feeling the fever....we have Decuire!

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Re: Akoh

Post by AZGrizFan » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:53 pm

PlayerRep wrote:
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If it's true that Jamar is out for the year, I say we shift strategies and go small ball with Dorsey, Moorehead, Rorie, Oguine and Pridgett as our starting five, and Falls, Manuel and Anderson off the bench. Sucks to lose Jamar, but it's time now to push the ball up court.
AllWeather is spot on. AllWeather has become AllWise.

Akoh is gone. Stop worrying about what we don't have, and concentrate on what we do. At the very least we have:
--The best athletes in the Big Sky;
--Great rebounding from the guard line;
--A team that suddenly can shoot. (Good shooting is contagious and this team has caught the bug. Was Manuel the carrier?)

So: Here's my strategy.

--Push that ball! No matter who gets that rebound, turn and push the ball upcourt. (This is where our rebounding from the guard line could be a huge strength.) And remember: No player is the history of basketball has ever been faster than a pass. Pass that ball upcourt! This has been a HUGE key to the Warriors's success. Green, Durant, Thompson, Curry (who's a surprisingly good rebounder)--the minute they grab a rebound, they pivot and go, pell-mell, putting tremendous pressure on the opposing defense, especially the bigs, because big guys don't like to sprint up and down the court. And, yes, the NBA is catching up to small-ball, largely because bigs have become adept three-point shooters. Not so in the Big Sky. Not yet, anyway.

--Increase our shots on goal. Don't wait until deep in the possession to work for a shot. This just lets their defenses get set. Many times this year I've seen our kids pass on a good shot early in the possession. No! You get a good shot, take it. At the end of any game, I want our kids to have taken more shots than the opponent--a lot more shots. And remember, three-point shots often lead to long rebounds, further decreasing the advantage of the bigs underneath.

--More drives to the basket! Put constant pressure on the opposing bigs. Oguine has the quickest first step I've seen this side of the NBA. Rorie is crafty with an exceptional handle. He should drive more. And Pridgett to my mind is one of the huge surprises of this year.Turn him loose inside. He's shown great quickness underneath and a surprising array of deft post moves.

--I agree, this is a high-risk way to play. Turnovers ensure--a major problem for the Warriors, I might add. But at this point, it's our best chance. Strolling up the court, getting into a set offense, using up the shot clock to devise an open shot--those are all things that work to the advantage of a team, like Weber, with quality bigs.

The injury to Akoh has shaken us. Now we must respond by shaking things up again. To our advantage this time.
That might...MIGHT get us through the tourney...but we're staring at another 30 point blowout in the first round without a legit big man in the middle. We will get eaten ALIVE by the perimeter defenses that are out there in the top tier P5 conference teams.

But...what else you gonna do? It's not like we have a ton of options sitting on the bench...
I wouldn't call a 14 point loss last year to a team that made it to the tournament finals "another 30 point blowout in the first round".
After we shot to the 10-0 lead they outscored us by 24. But I was referring more to the Wisconsin and Syracuse games in years past...
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Re: Akoh

Post by AZDoc » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:05 am

So question is...if it's "just" a meniscus injury, he isn't necessarily out for the season. If it's a simple tear he can be back in 2-3 weeks, which is tourney time. If it's a complex tear or bucket handle tear, that makes things a bit more season ending. Depends on the type of surgery.
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Re: Akoh

Post by Bjorn Bjornstein » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:49 am

In its game preview article the Ogden newspaper said that Akon is out with an arm injury suffered in the Ewoo game. Travis was quoted as saying “he could go tonight or be out for awhile”

So is it a knee or an arm?
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Re: Akoh

Post by go96griz » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:03 am

AZDoc wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:05 am
So question is...if it's "just" a meniscus injury, he isn't necessarily out for the season. If it's a simple tear he can be back in 2-3 weeks, which is tourney time. If it's a complex tear or bucket handle tear, that makes things a bit more season ending. Depends on the type of surgery.
The word going around is that he plans to be out.

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Re: Akoh

Post by GrizWhiz » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:24 am

Bjorn Bjornstein wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:49 am
In its game preview article the Ogden newspaper said that Akon is out with an arm injury suffered in the Ewoo game. Travis was quoted as saying “he could go tonight or be out for awhile”

So is it a knee or an arm?
Akoh did not play against EWU.

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Re: Akoh

Post by AZDoc » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:41 am

go96griz wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:03 am
AZDoc wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:05 am
So question is...if it's "just" a meniscus injury, he isn't necessarily out for the season. If it's a simple tear he can be back in 2-3 weeks, which is tourney time. If it's a complex tear or bucket handle tear, that makes things a bit more season ending. Depends on the type of surgery.
The word going around is that he plans to be out.
Now...I certainly didn't say it was smart for him to come back in 2 weeks...just making medical suggestions. He can play professionally somewhere in my opinion. If I'd be hindering my future, as well as only being 75%, I'd make that same decision if that's what it is. That also tells me though, that probably more than a simple meniscus as even a puss like me would be back in 3 weeks after a "simple" scope. As much as it sucks for the Griz, I think, unless he's feeling dynamite, that's the smart choice.
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Re: Akoh

Post by PlayerRep » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:02 am

AZDoc wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:05 am
So question is...if it's "just" a meniscus injury, he isn't necessarily out for the season. If it's a simple tear he can be back in 2-3 weeks, which is tourney time. If it's a complex tear or bucket handle tear, that makes things a bit more season ending. Depends on the type of surgery.
I had been thinking the same things. Perhaps it's the type that requires more recovery time.

Also, I finally learned why my first scope took so long to recover from and the second one didn't. The first was a bucket tear, and really took a couple months to recover. With the second, I was skiing at Big Sky 8, 9 and 10 days later, and in the bumps on the 10th. Was a bit sore after the bumps. And I was no spring chicken the second time. The first time I had gone to Mpls to have some hotshot partner of my buddy do the scope, so I had no initial visit or followup with him (or else he probably would have told me, or I remembered, about recovery time). In the learn something new every day category. Thx.

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Re: Akoh

Post by tourist » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:39 am

HookedonGriz wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:55 pm
Like I said. If Decuire wins the conference tourney now with no Akoh, extend him 20 years and give him any $ amount he wants. Would be the finest work of a head coach almost ever. In Decuire I trust! You feeling the fever....we have Decuire!
IF. Big IF. I ass/u/me YOU are writing the check. :shock:

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Re: Akoh

Post by HookedonGriz » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:47 am

tourist wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:39 am
HookedonGriz wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:55 pm
Like I said. If Decuire wins the conference tourney now with no Akoh, extend him 20 years and give him any $ amount he wants. Would be the finest work of a head coach almost ever. In Decuire I trust! You feeling the fever....we have Decuire!
IF. Big IF. I ass/u/me YOU are writing the check. :shock:
I’ll write a check...but I’ll need a lot of help :). Afraid mine would only cover like 1%

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Re: Akoh

Post by tourist » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:04 am

Dude, you are WEALTHY by my standards!!! :lol:

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Re: Akoh

Post by AllWeatherFan » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:37 pm

tourist wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:39 am
HookedonGriz wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:55 pm
Like I said. If Decuire wins the conference tourney now with no Akoh, extend him 20 years and give him any $ amount he wants. Would be the finest work of a head coach almost ever. In Decuire I trust! You feeling the fever....we have Decuire!
IF. Big IF. I ass/u/me YOU are writing the check. :shock:
Well, technically, it's not one check. It's one check every year. You can't pay for ongoing expenses with one-time money. :)
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Post by tourist » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:50 pm

Noted, AWF. "...checks." Accounting background? English background? At times I don't habla the language. :) Left my correct English composition skills behind me about 30 years ago.

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Re: Akoh

Post by griz71 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:57 pm

Most accurate thing you can say about this thread---A LOT OF UNSUBSTANTIATED INFORMATION.
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Re: Akoh

Post by Mousegriz » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:32 pm

go96griz wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:03 am
AZDoc wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:05 am
So question is...if it's "just" a meniscus injury, he isn't necessarily out for the season. If it's a simple tear he can be back in 2-3 weeks, which is tourney time. If it's a complex tear or bucket handle tear, that makes things a bit more season ending. Depends on the type of surgery.
The word going around is that he plans to be out.
At least there is no rumor that he "doesn't want to play for the Griz anymore".....this thread would get looooong.

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Re: Akoh

Post by tourist » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:37 pm

17 pages? This ain't over until we say its over!

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Post by garizzalies » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:45 pm

HookedonGriz wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:55 pm
Like I said. If Decuire wins the conference tourney now with no Akoh, extend him 20 years and give him any $ amount he wants. Would be the finest work of a head coach almost ever. In Decuire I trust! You feeling the fever....we have Decuire!
If? Do it regardless. Now!
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Once Cal snatches him up this off-season, the UM coaching tree will account for one-quarter of all the active head coaches in the Pac12. That’s nutbars

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Re: Akoh

Post by go96griz » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:52 pm

Mousegriz wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:32 pm
go96griz wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:03 am
AZDoc wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:05 am
So question is...if it's "just" a meniscus injury, he isn't necessarily out for the season. If it's a simple tear he can be back in 2-3 weeks, which is tourney time. If it's a complex tear or bucket handle tear, that makes things a bit more season ending. Depends on the type of surgery.
The word going around is that he plans to be out.
At least there is no rumor that he "doesn't want to play for the Griz anymore".....this thread would get looooong.
I purposefully worded it that way for a reason.

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Re: Akoh

Post by AllWeatherFan » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:30 pm

Mousegriz wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:32 pm
go96griz wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:03 am
AZDoc wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:05 am
So question is...if it's "just" a meniscus injury, he isn't necessarily out for the season. If it's a simple tear he can be back in 2-3 weeks, which is tourney time. If it's a complex tear or bucket handle tear, that makes things a bit more season ending. Depends on the type of surgery.
The word going around is that he plans to be out.
At least there is no rumor that he "doesn't want to play for the Griz anymore".....this thread would get looooong.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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