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EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:26 am
by Paytonlives
Looks like a showdown Suggesting possible elimination or move down.

https://www.inlander.com/spokane/ewu-fa ... d=19099082


Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:44 am
by Allezchat
That takes some brass balls to suggest a place with a very good program for much of the last decade just go to div. 3.

Buttttttt. With how good they are they don't generate donations or increase crowd sizes at high enough volumes how will they ever?

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:32 am
by SaskGriz
I see it as a two fold problem; like Debeers with diamonds, when EWU had a virtual monopoly on meth production in the western United States it was gravy days. The rapid growth in the Bakken Oilfields and the consequent loss of control of the market has had a ripple effect on revenues that is only being felt today. Secondly, alumni support is low as the recent introduction of fentanyl and the long standing problem of trailer park explosions have reduced alumni numbers and hence donations.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:43 am
by RABIDAWG
I think they would do quite well in Div 2 or 3! What an insult for recruitment.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:20 am
by retiredpopo
look for a whirl wind around the transfer portal...

Maybe they can take a few more with them and BSC will be back to normal...

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:25 am
by CDAGRIZ
A lot of great points made. I don’t see a problem in eliminating EWU athletics if they interfere with the core purpose of the VoTech. The University of Phoenix and DeVrys of the world don’t have athletics, so I can see why EWU faculty is questioning this. A return to focus on the programs Sally Struthers spoke about just might be in order.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:25 am
by AZGrizFan
I would venture a guess that in the ongoing feud/battle across this nation between faculty and athletics, about 80% of colleges in America would come up with the exact same conclusion, were they to perform a similar study.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:26 am
by HookedonGriz
Crazy to me they would consider cutting football. When I think of EWU, I literally only think of their football program. I don’t think of them as some hot, sought after college just for education.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:31 am
by bgbigdog
HookedonGriz wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:26 am
Crazy to me they would consider cutting football. When I think of EWU, I literally only think of their football program. I don’t think of them as some hot, sought after college just for education.
& diesel mechanics, right?

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:39 am
by CDAGRIZ
AZGrizFan wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:25 am
I would venture a guess that in the ongoing feud/battle across this nation between faculty and athletics, about 80% of colleges in America would come up with the exact same conclusion, were they to perform a similar study.
Leave it to the esteemed EWU “faculty” to come up with this novel concept that sports cost money. They will next focus on making a square piece of rock into a round piece of rock so it will roll. Donate today.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:40 am
by CDAGRIZ
bgbigdog wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:31 am
HookedonGriz wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:26 am
Crazy to me they would consider cutting football. When I think of EWU, I literally only think of their football program. I don’t think of them as some hot, sought after college just for education.
& diesel mechanics, right?
Diagnostics only. Only a professional is allowed to operate.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:42 am
by braves84
bgbigdog wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:31 am
HookedonGriz wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:26 am
Crazy to me they would consider cutting football. When I think of EWU, I literally only think of their football program. I don’t think of them as some hot, sought after college just for education.
& diesel mechanics, right?
A friend of mine has a bot who graduated froma vo-tech school in Wahpeton ND. 5 years ago and now works in the bakken as a deisel mechanics. Works as many hours as he wants and his close to a six figure income. Laugh all you want, not to bad for a 27 year old.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:43 am
by braves84
Meant to say a boy.stupid spell check.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:47 am
by Htowngriz
Can't wait for GoldenShower's hot take on this!

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:09 am
by PlayerRep
Based on the article's summary of the report, maybe EWU needs to upgrade the quality of its faculty. Having the discussion is fine, but, at least as cherry-picked by the article, the report came across as pretty weak.

But for football and basketball, would any of us ever have heard of EWU?

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:12 am
by RayWill
I know for a fact that a lot of the private donations that EWU has received to academics are a direct result of the success of the football program. Faculty probably didn't even consider that a possibility.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:25 am
by TCCGRIZ
Well with Trumps war on drugs , EWU's revenue from meth has gone down significantly.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:29 am
by kemajic
AZGrizFan wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:25 am
I would venture a guess that in the ongoing feud/battle across this nation between faculty and athletics, about 80% of colleges in America would come up with the exact same conclusion, were they to perform a similar study.
Exactly. True even at UM where athletics draws such high revenue, the faculty would do the same because they are entitled. Whether producing a marketable product or not.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:02 am
by garizzalies
The report then examines what would happen if EWU maintained its Division I status, but eliminated football. That would save up to $3.5 million per year. The report calls this a "moral choice."
Moral choice? Really? This is worse than I imagined. I can’t think of a moral choice that made business sense other than maybe Victoria’s Secret carrying plus sized lingerie. But that’s just common sense.

Can you imagine if McDonald’s made the moral choice to eliminate their fries? Like why the F would anyone go there again?

Are Ewe’ers even capable of making moral choices? Seems like an oxymoron.

Re: EWU faculty report: Athletics need to be cut Or eliminated

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:07 am
by CDAGRIZ
braves84 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:42 am
bgbigdog wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:31 am
HookedonGriz wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:26 am
Crazy to me they would consider cutting football. When I think of EWU, I literally only think of their football program. I don’t think of them as some hot, sought after college just for education.
& diesel mechanics, right?
A friend of mine has a bot who graduated froma vo-tech school in Wahpeton ND. 5 years ago and now works in the bakken as a deisel mechanics. Works as many hours as he wants and his close to a six figure income. Laugh all you want, not to bad for a 27 year old.
Did the VoTech in Whypeton, ND have a DI Athletics program? No? Oh, OK.