Thought this was good news. They are projecting a larger incoming freshman class as well based on applications and acceptance:
https://news.umt.edu/2019/08/081919summ.php
https://news.umt.edu/2019/08/081919summ.php
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UM Summer Enrollment Highest Since 2014
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Jaredkuehn
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Straight from the president's mouth; they are expecting an increase in freshman enrollment this fall, but a decline in overall enrollment due to a larger graduating class. He said to be prepared for "the negative headlines" but that the trend is heading the right direction.
It will take a couple years of increasing freshmen class sizes to net an overall increase in enrollment, but it sounds like there is finally some positive momentum.
It will take a couple years of increasing freshmen class sizes to net an overall increase in enrollment, but it sounds like there is finally some positive momentum.
fanofzoo said:
Touché!
IdaGriz01
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A very good point.AZGrizFan said:
US News has compiled stats for some relatively recent years. Of course, colleges and universities that are highly selective in who that let in tend to have high retention rates. Once you’re in, you want to stay. It obviously also helps if the school can offer a lot of scholarship dough to help out. So the Ivies run 97-99% retention. But even some public universities do pretty well. Thus, Florida State showed at 93% (#54 in the US News list) and Colorado State had 86%. (#127).
Turns out, neither of the major Montana schools come out all that great. The rate for MSU was 77% (#223) while UM sat at 71% (#271). So roughly a quarter of the freshman enrollees do not continue on. Not sure what steps might increase the UM number to, say, the mid-80%. But that would help to the tune of 150-200 students that would continue on each year. Not a huge plus, but at least in the right direction.
IdaGriz01 said:
You are both on to something. Both schools will let just about anyone in but depends on academic requirements to par the class down to what it should have been in the first place. Not so sure but what that approach doesn't make sense at some level affording a large number of Montana kids opportunity is worth a lot If they are able to take advantage great. If not, they had a chance that they may not have gotten otherwise. Both schools have pretty good graduation rates as well as improving retention. Bozo better because of their core competency requirements:
In order to begin a University Academic Plan at Montana State University, students must demonstrate readiness in areas of mathematics and writing. Typically, students demonstrate their readiness through scores earned on standardized examinations:
Math: ACT Math of 22+ or SAT Math of 520+ (prior to March 2016) or SAT Math Test of 27.5+ (after March 2016).
Writing: ACT English/Writing or ELA of 18+ or a minimum score of 7 on the Writing Subscore (prior to September 2015) or 19+ on the Writing Subject Score (effective September 2015). SAT Writing of 440+ or 7 on the Essay Subscore (prior to March 2016) or SAT Writing/Language Test of 25+ (after March 2016).
If a student does not demonstrate full readiness prior to his/her New Student Orientation, academic advisors will help the student register during orientation for the appropriate courses needed to move forward in his/her degree path.
UM could use some work on this. Many schools don't "count" students (and often don't admit) who have not met requirements met requirements for an academic plan. Granted its a bit of "number plumbing" but does make senses on some levels
PlayerRep said:
Don’t know of the % yet but overall enrollment will be down again, due to large graduating class. The freshman class will be up but can’t make up for the senior graduates. But a few more years of freshman enrollment increases and we are heading the right way.
wbtfg said:
Flipping a coin will give you heads or tails too.
