North Dakota Fighting Hawks Scouting Report

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The Griz are hitting the road after a stinging homecoming loss to Portland State. With this loss in the rearview mirror the Griz need to get refocused fast and back on track. Up next is a non-conference matchup against the North Dakota Fighting Hawks. This is going to mark the 3rd consecutive run-heavy team the Griz will have faced and is presumably the best defense they’ll have seen this whole season. For the Griz to get back on track they’ll have to stand up and face their biggest challenge of the season so far. UND is coming off a bye week, they’ll be rested and ready, and while UM was listed as an early favorite I’d assume as the week goes on UND will tip to being the odds-on favorite to win.

North Dakota Fighting Hawks 3-2

35-7 win vs Mississippi Valley State – Looking at the yardage you’d think UND would have had more points. 225 passing, 293 rushing, 33:30 of clock time, 80 plays in the game, and just 1 lost turnover. However UND did get penalized almost 80 yards in the game and also missed 2 fieldgoals. MVSU passed for nearly 270 and couldn’t run at all, finished with -27 yards, mostly on account of the 7 sacks they gave up.

3-45 loss @ Washington – Well yeah, what would you expect? UW ran for 200 and passed for 440 while UND ran for 160 and passed for 100. Better showing for UND at UW than Montana had last year though.

24-23 win @ SHSU – This one got some attention, SHSU at the time was ranked 4th in the nation (now 15th after suffering 2 losses). It was a game that didn’t feature a ton of offense, about 390 for UND and just 300 for SHSU. This game featured a few big lead changes, UND opened up 7-0, SHSU tied it, and then UND scored 10 unanswered, but SHSU kicked a field goal right before the half to make it 17-10 UND. In the 2nd half scored 13 unanswered to get the lead but UND answered with a 12 play, 84 yard drive scoring a TD with 4:44 left in the game. SHSU with the ball back went 4 and out, and UND killed the clock. SHSU’s 300 yards of offense was their lowest total output since 2014, running for 99 and passing for 201. What UND did successfully against SHSU was force them to kick fieldgoals instead of score TDs, additionally in wake of the UND kicker being 2-5 on the season at that point they decided in their key 4th quarter drive to opt not to kick a fieldgoal but to go for it twice on 4th down and successfully convert both.

21-25 loss vs Idaho State – Fresh off a big win UND hosted ISU for homecoming but fell flat to now red hot ISU. UND was up 14-3 in the late 1st quarter but from there ISU scored 13 unanswered to grab the lead. The 1st half of this game was where most of the scoring action was, it seems, 4 TDs and 4 field goals combined to set the halftime score at 21-19 in UND’s favor. In the 2nd half there was just 1 lone score, with 7:00 left in the game ISU connects on a 62 yard bomb, but fails to get the 2-point conversion, giving them the eventual 25-21 winning score. ISU in the 2nd half missed two fieldgoals (one blocked I think) as well and punted 5 times, while UND had a rough showing, 2 thrown interceptions and 5 punts of their own. There was over 1000 yards of offense in this game too, both on fairly balanced attacks. ISU had 566 total while UND had 469 total. UND had 3 costly turnovers and 1 turnover on downs.


38-13 win @ Northern Colorado – UND got back to what they do best, rushing for over 350 yards and controlling the clock in a major way. UNC had just 201 yards of total offense and was 1 for 10 on 3rd down.

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General Stats

Passing yards per game Montana (241 for UM vs 172 for UND)
Rushing yards per game UND (169 rush ypg for UM vs 247 rush ypg for UND)
Total offense UND (410 for the Griz vs 420 for UND)
Passing yards allowed per game Montana (267 ypg allowed by UND vs 230 ypg allowed for UM)
Rushing yards allowed per game UND (178 ypg allowed by UM vs 125 ypg allowed by UND)
Total defense UND (408 ypg allowed by UM vs 392 ypg allowed by UND)

2 for Montana and 4 for UND but some of those are awfully close on the total offense and total defense.

Offense points scored Montana (35 vs 24)
Defense points allowed UND (22.6 vs 25.7)
Turnover margin Montana – Griz are +2 while UND is +1
Fieldgoal % Montana – 100% for Montana, 50% for UND
Punt Returns Montana (10.6 YPR vs 8.75 YPR)
Kick Returns Montana (25.6 for UM vs 20.6 for UND)
T.O.P. UND (33:43 for UND vs 27:23 for UM)
Red Zone defense (touchdowns) UND (UM 60% / UND 47% )
Red Zone offense (touchdowns) UND (24% UND / 56% UM)
3rd down offense UND (36% for UM / 41% for UND)
3rd down defense UND (UM 40% / UND 33%)

Montana adds 5 while UND adds 6 which makes the total 7 for Montana and 10 for UND

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Players to Watch:

#22 John Santiago, RB – We all know this dude, he’s 5-9, 187 and a burner of a running back and a return man. He missed the UNC game with a knee injury but is expected to return after resting for that game and the bye week. He’s basically averaging 100 yards/game rushing, 13 yards per game receiving, 8.75 yards per punt return, and almost 21 yards per kick return.

#5 Brady Oliveria, RB – The bigger back (but not the biggest) at 5-10, 220. Olveria is averaging about 76 yards per game rushing and has 3 rushing TDs this season. He’s got a few catches for about 30 yards this season too.

#33 James Johannesson, RB – The biggest back, 6-1, 250, accounts for about 50 yards per game rushing, had 141 against UNC, and has a few catches himself.

#8 Nate Ketteringham, QB – At 6-3, 210 Nate’s passing for 171 yards per game and completing passes at about a rate of 55%. He’s got 6 TDs passing to 3 INTs. He’s part of the run game too, because of course he is, he accounts for about 23 yards per game and leads the team with 4 rushing TDs.

#31 Noah Wanzek, WR – A big 6-4 target, this guy is the biggest threat in the passing game. He’s got 320 yards and 2 TDs this season

#11 Travis Toivonen, WR – Another 6-4 WR, he’s 2nd on the team in receiving yards with 147 and has 2 TDs as well.

#55 Mason Bennett, DE – A 6-4, 257 pound D-end in their 3-4 scheme Bennett leads the team with 6 sacks so far, 7 TFLs, and 4 QB hits.

#40 Noah Larson, LB – One of the 2 inside linebackers, Larson is an RS frosh in his first year starting but leads the team so far with 28 tackles and 2.5 TFLs.

#25 Jordan Canaday, S – One of the few returning statistics leaders from last year, Canaday is a big safety at 6-2, 198. He’s got 20 tackles, 2 INTs, 5 PBU’s and 0.5 sacks.

#44 Donnell Rodgers, LB – A 6-1, 250 linebacker who starts on the inside next to Larson, he’s got 25 tackles, 4 TFLs, and 2 sacks.

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Keys to a Grizzly victory

1. Learn and adapt from what worked (and what didn’t) against PSU’s defense. UND runs a 3-4 with some stout interior linemen and their defense spreads around the stats. The Griz found success with tempo and keeping that defense from holding Sneed in check. No slow, developing plays as UND has a great knack for getting after the QB (20 sacks so far this season).

2. Attack through the air. It would seem that UND’s weakness is their pass defense, based on what the stats show. The Griz have a stable of pass catchers that need to have their best game this Saturday. Don’t totally abandon the run game of course, but know that through the air is where we’ll make our money on Saturday. And that said… Sneed needs to have his best passing game yet.

3. Score in bunches. What’s interesting about UND is the gaudy stats in many games but low overall scoring. Much like Cal Poly if the Griz can force UND into a game of keep-up, they may have issues doing so. They’ve got tall possession WRs and a game-changer in Santiago, but how much success will they have if the Griz can key in on that if they have a good lead? (not saying they will, but it would for sure be great).

4. Don’t let Santiago go wild. While UND has a legit 3-headed monster in the run game, and maybe a 4 headed one if you count their QB… Santiago is the difference maker there. I would assume that UND is going to be picking apart game film from the success that Sac and PSU had with their quicker/burner running backs and looking to attack us that way.

5. Contest deep passes. It seemed that last week PSU was able to easily connect on many deeper possession-type passes where their WR/TE would go up and get it without much to contest them. UND has two 6-4 targets they’ll look to do the same with, got to be more disruptive with those.

6. Force UND to fieldgoal attempts. Look I assume UND is going to get 200+ yards rushing and will get to our side of the field plenty. If the Griz can make key stops and force a fieldgoal attempt (or as UND history shows a failed 4th down conversion) the odds are in the Grizzlies favor that the drive could end without points.

7. Rekindle some ST magic. If there was ever a game we need big things from JLM and Flowers its this one. On the coverage side… once again, it’s Santiago, stay in your lane and don’t let him get a burst.

8. Avoid another game where the opponent has the ball for 38:00+ of TOP. I don’t expect the Griz to hold UND to at/near/under 30:00 of TOP, but we can’t have this defense out there for another near 40:00 of clock time again. Make some stops, sustain some drives.

9. Either win the turnover battle or simply have no turnovers. UND doesn’t have a lot of turnovers, don’t expect many opportunities there. The Griz need to better secure the ball and not make many mistakes on turnovers, if any. Simply cannot gift a power-run team a few possessions.

10. Keep Ketteringham in the pocket. On passing plays keep this guy from getting to the sideline and make sure if he steps up in the pocket he’s got a Griz defender to greet him.

11. Let UND hurt themselves. One thing that also jumps off the stat book to me is that UND is penalized on average of almost 80 yards per game. Let's make sure they keep hurting themselves that way and avoid retaliation.

12. The team’s best game. This year in the two losses Bobby has shouldered the blame and we’ve had fans right here on this board pointing out coaching errors that possibly were contributing factors to the loss. Bobby and the staff needs to dial up their best game and limit or erase the few head-scratchers we’ve seen that pop up in close games. On the team side, execution has to be the best we’ve seen. Drops, fumbles, overthrows, missed blocks, missed tackles, missed assignments need to be at a season-low.

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I know a lot of fans are predicting a loss here and based on the stats and most recent outcomes, it’s easy to see why. The Griz are going to be challenged again by a 3-4 defense that swarms to the ball and is physical as hell. On the other side this marks their 3rd week in a row against a power-run team and they’re going to be tested there like they haven’t been before.

The key to me will be the preparation and work put in by the Griz this week. Will they double-down on cleaning things up, or are they just reeling from a real bad loss? I’m still a believer in these guys and I have faith this staff will have them ready. I think it’ll be close but I’m hoping that Sneed can shake off last week and get locked in with his WRs in a game that really favors them. If the Grizzly passing game can get rolling I see a Griz win here. I think it’s going to be damn close though. I joked yesterday that the Griz will win on a 2-point conversion late, 31-30… and while I don’t know if that’ll be what does it, I’ll stick with that prediction

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If you’re wondering why the QB’s name is so familiar sounding it’s because he was a starter at Sac State and transferred to UND and sat out 2017 per the transfer rule.
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Always look forward to these. Couple of errors to point out. The ISU game was at home, homecoming in fact, and Rodgers and Larson are ILBs not OLBs.
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If we are going to go for a two point conversion to win the game, lets hope and pray it's not the same play they used against PSU!

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Wondering if anyone has any insight on injuries. I assume Cody Meyer will be out until UCD. How about Keintz? Didn’t he walk off the field gingerly last weekend?
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conference game for us.
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geaux_sioux wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:07 pm Always look forward to these. Couple of errors to point out. The ISU game was at home, homecoming in fact, and Rodgers and Larson are ILBs not OLBs.
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My bad there! I must’ve read their positions wrong on the participation report. I’ll correct that.

Geaux - anything I’m missing here?
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Jaredkuehn wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:05 pm Wondering if anyone has any insight on injuries. I assume Cody Meyer will be out until UCD. How about Keintz? Didn’t he walk off the field gingerly last weekend?
No that was Beaver and he came back a few series later I think
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BWahlberg wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:18 pm
Jaredkuehn wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:05 pm Wondering if anyone has any insight on injuries. I assume Cody Meyer will be out until UCD. How about Keintz? Didn’t he walk off the field gingerly last weekend?
No that was Beaver and he came back a few series later I think
Good to hear, I missed seeing him come back in.
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i think for a genuine comparison, pull the uw stats, because considering the overall skill of the team they are an outlier compared to the rest played by either und or the griz. doing so doesn't totally change the picture, but it does indicate und may be better at things like scoring points than it first appears (24 ppg w/uw, vs 30 ppg w/o)
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BWahlberg wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:17 pm
geaux_sioux wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:07 pm Always look forward to these. Couple of errors to point out. The ISU game was at home, homecoming in fact, and Rodgers and Larson are ILBs not OLBs.
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My bad there! I must’ve read their positions wrong on the participation report. I’ll correct that.

Geaux - anything I’m missing here?
DE- #91 Cieslak is having a big year. Wrecks plays on the regular and his teammates reap the rewards.

Our CB group should be ALOT stronger than the last few times we’ve played. Should.

Our passing game sucks. Qb isn’t very good and the tall slow ass WRs struggle to separate. We have a few shorter really fast ones but they don’t get used much.

Get ready to dominate the 3rd quarter. We are pure horse shit in the 3rd this year.

We should have all of our OLBs, the actual ones, healthy so I would expect a lot of blitzing from a miriad of guys.

OL is still in flux. Our LT is out for the year so we have a rs fr out there. The interior is veteran but the tackle spots are not. We’ve got a soph and true fr rotating at RT.

As a whole, we still have no idea if we’re any good yet. Fumbled at the goal line against ISU as we were about to blow their doors off and ended up going cold from there on offense. Our d is lights out at times and other times looks like last year getting gashed.
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Lets hope our corners don't get so aggressive. Double moves by PSU killed Montana....I think Montana gets a huge dose of Santiago and Oliveria. The swing passes and wheel routes really hurt the Griz last time in North Dakota. The D will get a huge test. If the Griz cant improve on -5 yards in the first quarter then this team has a lot more problems on it's plate. IMO, playoffs on the line from here on out.
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putter wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:37 pm Lets hope our corners don't get so aggressive. Double moves by PSU killed Montana....I think Montana gets a huge dose of Santiago and Oliveria. The swing passes and wheel routes really hurt the Griz last time in North Dakota. The D will get a huge test. If the Griz cant improve on -5 yards in the first quarter then this team has a lot more problems on it's plate. IMO, playoffs on the line from here on out.
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Thanks Brint. I always get a lot out of your scouting reports and other posts. One thing that jumped out at me re. last week's game...."No slow, developing plays"
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I just hope the Griz don’t go bust in the Areola Center. I’m looking forward to a dominant Griz victory not some tit-for-tat scoring battle. Here’s to putting our breast foot forward with a firm yet suple offensive line and a rock hard defense.

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Ursa Major wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:07 am I just hope the Griz don’t go bust in the Areola Center. I’m looking forward to a dominant Griz victory not some tit-for-tat scoring battle. Here’s to putting our breast foot forward with a firm yet suple offensive line and a rock hard defense.

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