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Will The Coaching Staff Learn From This Game?

MiningCityGrizFan

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I feel bad for these kids. They played their hearts out, but unfortunately, they were not put in a position to close out this game.

At this point in the season, I am seriously questioning some of the coaching staff’s priorities. I think some of them still have a chip on their shoulders about being passed over for Stitt a few years back.

I’m not trying to re-ignite the controversy, but there was a podcast I listened to this week that brought back that sense of frustration from earlier this year.

Here is the link to the podcast: Big Sky Breakdown: Griz at WIU featuring Andrew Houghton, Shaun Rainey

Jump to the 54-minute mark -- Listen to what Shaun Rainey says about why he believes Gresch Jensen left the program.

For those of you who are technically challenged, the short version is the close personal relationship between Sneed and Rosenbach is the reason that Gresch left the Griz football team.

To quote Shaun, “They are TIGHT. Like, really, really close.”

The sad thing is that Shaun genuinely didn’t know this information. The sadder thing is that Colter has known all along that Sneed was getting preferential treatment because of that tight relationship and yet he still continued to push the narrative that Gresch left because he was an entitled kid who didn’t want to compete for the job.

An actual journalist would have reported on this conflict of interest, but Colter also has relationships with the current Griz coaching staff. I think it’s more of a man crush, but regardless of how you describe it, Colter lets those personal relationships influence his reporting. Keep that in mind whenever Colter references his “sources” on Twitter.

His reporting is more propaganda than it is journalism. In fact, when you listen to the podcast I referenced above, Shaun is replying to Colter’s glowing praise of Rosenbach’s “phenomenal job” addressing Montana’s “glaring weaknesses” (his words not mine).

Blah, blah, blah… Why do you even care?

Because today it cost the Griz a game they should have won.

I realize that many in Griz Nation are really high on Sneed. He's a very well spoken young man. He's very politically savvy too. And I think he’s genuinely a competitive kid. So please note that I am not attacking him as a person here.

As a football player, Sneed is not a good enough QB to lead this team to the playoffs. He proved that today.

He’s a very good runner, but he’s not an accurate passer. He cannot throw the deep ball.

He rarely connects on the deep throws and when he does, it takes a diving acrobatic maneuver by a receiver to make the catch, like today’s throw to Sammy early in the game.

The receiver ends up on the ground after making a circus catch. It’s great that they make the catch, but usually, there is with no one between him and the goal line. Had a more accurate throw been made, and the ball was caught in stride, then those plays go for six.

And even his short to medium range throws are not very catchable, he rifles almost every throw. And more often than not, he throws the ball at their knees.

Simply put, Sneed doesn’t have the skill set that is needed to complement the strengths of this team. Receivers like Toure came here to play in a vertical passing offense with a QB like Gresch.

Unfortunately for Griz players and fans, I don’t think Rosenbach cares.

It doesn’t matter that we had a proven winner in Jensen or a kid like Humphries with a better arm standing on the sideline, Sneed’s relationship with Rosenbach is all that matters.

For what it’s worth, I think Eastwood falls into that same category.

He too appears to be favored by this staff -- I assume it’s Hauck since he came from SDSU, but I don’t know.

For at least the last 10 years I have watched every Griz game multiple times -- in person whenever possible, but also again (and again) on DVR. I saw what Lee is capable of doing in short yardage situations last season. He’s a banger. A short, stocky, powerful kid who can get you one yard.

And yet for some reason, Eastwood is repeatedly given the ball in short yardage situations. Why you would repeatedly hand the ball to a slower, less powerful, freshman over an experienced senior is beyond me. Yes, I know the OL is struggling, but that’s exactly why you want a back who will slam the ball into the hole. Not one who stands straight up and leans into the pile only to be driven back.

Even today Eastwood didn’t play with any sense of urgency on the last few drives. Sneed to his credit followed up one of Eastwood's low-effort runs by quickly attacking the same defense, behind the same offensive line, and picked up 8 yards or something running straight up the middle of the defense.

And yet we repeatedly put the ball in the hands of a freshman transfer.

I know this team has the entire conference season ahead of them, but if the coaches don’t put their egos aside, learn from the last three Saturdays have taught them, and start putting the best players on the field instead of their favorites, then we’re in for a lot more days like today.
 
While I don't condone everything (many things?) in the post, the OP does make some legitimate points. Namely, Sneed really, really, really struggles on deep balls. There's simply no getting around it. Also, I agree Eastwood doesn't appear to be a DI back. There were multiple opportunities for cut backs or the ability to pop off tackle for yards and he just bulldozes straight ahead. Vision is clearly a problem, and I've to see any athleticism that makes up for it.
 
EverettGriz said:
While I don't condone everything (many things?) in the post, the OP does make some legitimate points. Namely, Sneed really, really, really struggles on deep balls. There's simply no getting around it. Also, I agree Eastwood doesn't appear to be a DI back. There were multiple opportunities for cut backs or the ability to pop off tackle for yards and he just bulldozes straight ahead. Vision is clearly a problem, and I've to see any athleticism that makes up for it.

Agree....at this stage of Eastwoods career (not saying he wont some day be a stud) Calhoun is much better, Lee is too. I think Green might struggle with the lack of oline play but would like to see him get a shot too. Eastwood plays about 90% of downs and has not shown he is a #1RB by any stretch. But I think he is Bobby's boy so probably will remain #1RB.
 
I mostly agree with Mining's post. I definitely agree with the info on the running backs. Not necessarily an anti-Hauck comment, but he has always played favorites, and the fact that both Sneed and Eastwood are starting, in my opinion, affirms that.
 
Agreed for most of it. Sneed is inaccurate and panics. Eastwood needs a year or two for sure.. Lee should be the starter. Also 100% agree is Gresch was here we would have won. However that is not the case and we can only hope for progression. I think this team still at worst gets 3 losses. Lessons hopefully have been learned.
 
Also remember the coaches are adjusting their schemes to the talent they have. This isn't Bobby ball yet. That will be in a couple years.
 
There is no question in my mind that both Lee and Calhoun are much better backs. Why Bobby continues to play Eastwood stifles my mind. If in fact Calhoun has paid his penalty he would give us a much much better chance of getting a resemblance of a running game. Has better vision, hits holes quicker and is a lot faster. Not to mention tough as hell. Lee needs to catch the ball better out of the backfield but imo twice the back Eastwood is. But Hauck will be Hauck and is going to sink or swim his way. I am not even going to bring up......
 
grizindabox said:
ordigger said:
grizindabox said:
rgrizfan said:
Still waiting to see them use a fullback on short yardage situations.

Good thing you are not holding your breath.

Don’t you have somewhere else to snivel?

All the whiners and complainers are entertaining....keep up the good work.

Personally I’d rather see you go back under your rock, troll. Your complaining is neither entertaining nor knowledgeable
 
rgrizfan said:
Still waiting to see them use a fullback on short yardage situations.

That's actually a great point. Why move Fa'atuies out of the linebacker rotation to never play him at fullback? Especially in short yardage situations?

Between Rosenbach and Pease, they can't put in a heavy short yardage / goal line package with a fullback?
 
MiningCityGrizFan said:
I feel bad for these kids. They played their hearts out, but unfortunately, they were not put in a position to close out this game.

At this point in the season, I am seriously questioning some of the coaching staff’s priorities. I think some of them still have a chip on their shoulders about being passed over for Stitt a few years back.

I’m not trying to re-ignite the controversy, but there was a podcast I listened to this week that brought back that sense of frustration from earlier this year.

Here is the link to the podcast: Big Sky Breakdown: Griz at WIU featuring Andrew Houghton, Shaun Rainey

Jump to the 54-minute mark -- Listen to what Shaun Rainey says about why he believes Gresch Jensen left the program.

For those of you who are technically challenged, the short version is the close personal relationship between Sneed and Rosenbach is the reason that Gresch left the Griz football team.

To quote Shaun, “They are TIGHT. Like, really, really close.”

The sad thing is that Shaun genuinely didn’t know this information. The sadder thing is that Colter has known all along that Sneed was getting preferential treatment because of that tight relationship and yet he still continued to push the narrative that Gresch left because he was an entitled kid who didn’t want to compete for the job.

An actual journalist would have reported on this conflict of interest, but Colter also has relationships with the current Griz coaching staff. I think it’s more of a man crush, but regardless of how you describe it, Colter lets those personal relationships influence his reporting. Keep that in mind whenever Colter references his “sources” on Twitter.

His reporting is more propaganda than it is journalism. In fact, when you listen to the podcast I referenced above, Shaun is replying to Colter’s glowing praise of Rosenbach’s “phenomenal job” addressing Montana’s “glaring weaknesses” (his words not mine).

Blah, blah, blah… Why do you even care?

Because today it cost the Griz a game they should have won.

I realize that many in Griz Nation are really high on Sneed. He's a very well spoken young man. He's very politically savvy too. And I think he’s genuinely a competitive kid. So please note that I am not attacking him as a person here.

As a football player, Sneed is not a good enough QB to lead this team to the playoffs. He proved that today.

He’s a very good runner, but he’s not an accurate passer. He cannot throw the deep ball.

He rarely connects on the deep throws and when he does, it takes a diving acrobatic maneuver by a receiver to make the catch, like today’s throw to Sammy early in the game.

The receiver ends up on the ground after making a circus catch. It’s great that they make the catch, but usually, there is with no one between him and the goal line. Had a more accurate throw been made, and the ball was caught in stride, then those plays go for six.

And even his short to medium range throws are not very catchable, he rifles almost every throw. And more often than not, he throws the ball at their knees.

Simply put, Sneed doesn’t have the skill set that is needed to complement the strengths of this team. Receivers like Toure came here to play in a vertical passing offense with a QB like Gresch.

Unfortunately for Griz players and fans, I don’t think Rosenbach cares.

It doesn’t matter that we had a proven winner in Jensen or a kid like Humphries with a better arm standing on the sideline, Sneed’s relationship with Rosenbach is all that matters.

For what it’s worth, I think Eastwood falls into that same category.

He too appears to be favored by this staff -- I assume it’s Hauck since he came from SDSU, but I don’t know.

For at least the last 10 years I have watched every Griz game multiple times -- in person whenever possible, but also again (and again) on DVR. I saw what Lee is capable of doing in short yardage situations last season. He’s a banger. A short, stocky, powerful kid who can get you one yard.

And yet for some reason, Eastwood is repeatedly given the ball in short yardage situations. Why you would repeatedly hand the ball to a slower, less powerful, freshman over an experienced senior is beyond me. Yes, I know the OL is struggling, but that’s exactly why you want a back who will slam the ball into the hole. Not one who stands straight up and leans into the pile only to be driven back.

Even today Eastwood didn’t play with any sense of urgency on the last few drives. Sneed to his credit followed up one of Eastwood's low-effort runs by quickly attacking the same defense, behind the same offensive line, and picked up 8 yards or something running straight up the middle of the defense.

And yet we repeatedly put the ball in the hands of a freshman transfer.

I know this team has the entire conference season ahead of them, but if the coaches don’t put their egos aside, learn from the last three Saturdays have taught them, and start putting the best players on the field instead of their favorites, then we’re in for a lot more days like today.

I certainly have no inside knowledge of anything like this, but as an outside observer I do believe it is evident that both Sneed and Eastwood are playing ahead of others that could perform better. Would love to see how Cam does, but not sure that will happen. And Eastwood is clearly not the answer. When Stitt was accused of this, the outrage seemed much louder.
 
MiningCityGrizFan said:
rgrizfan said:
Still waiting to see them use a fullback on short yardage situations.

That's actually a great point. Why move Fa'atuies out of the linebacker rotation to never play him at fullback? Especially in short yardage situations?

Between Rosenbach and Pease, they can't put in a heavy short yardage / goal line package with a fullback?

And for crying out loud, on 4th and a foot DO NOT put your QB in a fucking shotgun. I put that one directly on BH.
 
MiningCityGrizFan said:
rgrizfan said:
Still waiting to see them use a fullback on short yardage situations.

That's actually a great point. Why move Fa'atuies out of the linebacker rotation to never play him at fullback? Especially in short yardage situations?

Between Rosenbach and Pease, they can't put in a heavy short yardage / goal line package with a fullback?

Vika has been moved back to LB.
 
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