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Oldngrizzly Ramblings #2

Does religion play more of a factor in recruiting in the Hauck 2.0 era ? On the surface at least, it appears that religion is used as a recruiting factor to help determine the type of person the recruit or transfer is.
 
NCAA student-athletes tend to be more religious than non-athletes in general. It is pretty rare to come across an Atheist quarterback nowadays.
 
It’s pretty rare to come across an atheist specialist but they do exist à la Chris Kluwe. Kickers particularly I have found to fanatically religious more often than not. My guess is believing of your kicks are out of your hands and are in God’s hands instead helps ease their anxiety.
 
5280Griz said:
It’s pretty rare to come across an atheist specialist but they do exist à la Chris Kluwe. Kickers particularly I have found to fanatically religious more often than not. My guess is believing of your kicks are out of your hands and are in God’s hands instead helps ease their anxiety.
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Thats kinda the idea with everything in life. Give it to God.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
Thats kinda the idea with everything in life. Give it to God.
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You aren’t wrong there. I think in football you see religion more so in positions that are emotionally and mentally challenging rather than physically challenging. For example the 3 specialist positions with kicker being the most emotionally and mentally challenging plus qb are all going to be more religious due to being more emotionally challenging positions. By that I mean that anxiety and self doubt is the biggest hurdle to success particularly with kicker and punter. A lot of people can kick a 50 yard field goal by themselves or during practice but what makes someone a kicker instead of just someone who can kick is that they have the emotional fortitude to not be effected by anxiety regardless of the situation and can consistently make the kicks under pressure.
 
i think the speculation here is absurd. in the past i knew quite a few montana football players, and the ones who were religious stuck out like a sore thumb because they used their 'platform' to announce their beliefs to the media. a non-religious person isn't going to do that, so you never hear about it. it of course follows that fans of the team, who don't know the players in much depth personally, will hear the statements from only the religious ones, and conclude that most of the team are the same way. i suspect the truth is in line with the statistics for their age group.

oh, and what's the nonsense about kickers, etc? i don't remember any kicker say anything about deities influencing their performance.
 
5280Griz said:
You aren’t wrong there. I think in football you see religion more so in positions that are emotionally and mentally challenging rather than physically challenging. For example the 3 specialist positions with kicker being the most emotionally and mentally challenging plus qb are all going to be more religious due to being more emotionally challenging positions. By that I mean that anxiety and self doubt is the biggest hurdle to success particularly with kicker and punter. A lot of people can kick a 50 yard field goal by themselves or during practice but what makes someone a kicker instead of just someone who can kick is that they have the emotional fortitude to not be effected by anxiety regardless of the situation and can consistently make the kicks under pressure.
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I'd guess the Illinois State kicker needs to get Jesus in his life before next year😂.
 
argh! said:
i think the speculation here is absurd. in the past i knew quite a few montana football players, and the ones who were religious stuck out like a sore thumb because they used their 'platform' to announce their beliefs to the media. a non-religious person isn't going to do that, so you never hear about it. it of course follows that fans of the team, who don't know the players in much depth personally, will hear the statements from only the religious ones, and conclude that most of the team are the same way. i suspect the truth is in line with the statistics for their age group.

oh, and what's the nonsense about kickers, etc? i don't remember any kicker say anything about deities influencing their performance.
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You've never seen a kicker point to the sky after a successful FG?
 
argh! said:
i think the speculation here is absurd. in the past i knew quite a few montana football players, and the ones who were religious stuck out like a sore thumb because they used their 'platform' to announce their beliefs to the media. a non-religious person isn't going to do that, so you never hear about it. it of course follows that fans of the team, who don't know the players in much depth personally, will hear the statements from only the religious ones, and conclude that most of the team are the same way. i suspect the truth is in line with the statistics for their age group.

oh, and what's the nonsense about kickers, etc? i don't remember any kicker say anything about deities influencing their performance.
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Basically every kicker in the NFL publicly displays religion. From Justin Tucker doing the sign of the cross before kicks to the guys like Daniel Carlson putting bible verses in all of his social media. You’re going to love how Chargers punter JK Scott gained national attention for leading a prayer with Donald Trump when Alabama visited the White House after winning the national championship.
 
you named three guys. i am an atheist who was raised catholic. i never believed any of it from day one, because all the god stuff seemed absurd to me, even when i was like 10 years old. despite that, i still will do the cross thing at times when i figure i'll use any superstition i can to 'help' my situation. i've seen athiest chinese do that for luck.
 
oldngrizzly said:
Does religion play more of a factor in recruiting in the Hauck 2.0 era ? On the surface at least, it appears that religion is used as a recruiting factor to help determine the type of person the recruit or transfer is.
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Not sure about the recruiting side of it but I stay a while after every home game and noticed the group that prays after the game is a good portion of the team. Seems like most teams are that way though.
 
grizondarez said:
Not sure about the recruiting side of it but I stay a while after every home game and noticed the group that prays after the game is a good portion of the team. Seems like most teams are that way though.
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do you count, and ask each player what his reason for being there might be? especially if a coach, or the head coach, joins, don't you think there might be a little peer/coach pressure to 'join the team'? if i was a 18-22 year old kid who played for a team and wanted to 'fit in', i'd probably join for appearance purposes. might even help my nil, who knows?
 
argh! said:
do you count, and ask each player what his reason for being there might be? especially if a coach, or the head coach, joins, don't you think there might be a little peer/coach pressure to 'join the team'? if i was a 18-22 year old kid who played for a team and wanted to 'fit in', i'd probably join for appearance purposes. might even help my nil, who knows?
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No I don’t count. It doesn’t really matter to me. Just a simple observation that seems to really get you all wound up for whatever reason. Username checks out for that I guess. 😜. Go Griz
 
grizondarez said:
No I don’t count. It doesn’t really matter to me. Just a simple observation that seems to really get you all wound up for whatever reason. Username checks out for that I guess. 😜. Go Griz
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haha, you are right, that post did sound like i was wound too tight.
 
argh! said:
yes, and i've never assumed that they were 'religious' because of it. ever seen anybody point at the ground after a successful fg?
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Nope and I wouldn't know what to assume for that. I definitely know that if someones pointing to the sky after completing something successfully, 99% im pretty sure they're recognizing their deity and thanking him.
 
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