To Nick and Jack

[WFCAT]

Hey hoops, I have a question for you while we’re at it. How was the Cat defense able to hold the vaunted griz offense to 23 points when the DPOY went out early in the 1st quarter? With a hobbled Brott? With another safety and 2 linebackers out? Just think if the Cat D was heathy!

What if the griz hadn’t recovered the fumble in the second quarter? What if the griz would have taken the opening drive for a TD? What if Taco dropped the pass on the 87 yard TD? What if KAY didn’t throw a pick 6 on 4th and 7 (linebacker was surely out of position)?

The whole “what if” scenario you always do is so dumb. You try and take the YPC down for Jones because of a long run but won’t see that that applies to Gillman in the first brawl. You know nothing and it’s glaringly obvious. I’m glad you have Bobby’s ear though. I think he’s been using your analysis against the Cats.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Why is #84 your key blocker on many run plays? Because your offensive line is not strong enough to push the opposing D line off the ball which was called out by Andrew Schmidt.

I can see #3 being a main focal point of the game plan for the game against the Cats and when he went down, it hurt the offense. However, great coaching has contigencies built in for those type of situations and the coaching adapts the game plan to fit the personnel. You can't possibly tell me that with Wortham, Dever, Hendrix, Eli Gillman, Rocker, Gale, Bohannon, Fonoti, Monte Gillman, and Hashim Jones that the Griz coaches couldn't have adapted the play calling. In fact, I would say they did a great job adapting the play calling because the Griz were up 23-20 on the Cats at the end of the third quarter and that was after #3 went out. I have successfully refuted one of your claims. I will let others refute your other claims.

No, it's because 84 is so good at blocking and big, that he can be key blocker at the point of attack. Had you ever played football, you would know that. Andrew Schmidt is clueless about OL play. The OL guys, or some who were on the team then, don't like him. I think it's funny when clueless football players site other clueless football players as their sources. Of course, UM adapted its play-calling. But when you best players are not leading some of your best plays, you won't be as good. You have not refuted any of my claims. You are just showing that you don't understand football. Talk to the coaches and get back to us. Heck, just listen to Bobby's post-game interview.

 

[5280Griz]

Here are some questions for Schmidt. How would his ideas and solutions have addressed the following in the recent Cat game. Be specific. No generalities. Everyone can say new coach, new coordinator, different play-calling, different strength coach, better OL, recruit better players, etc.

1. How would Schmidt’s ideas have avoided the early injuries to 3 and 84. Much of the offense is built around those 2 players. No. 3 had 10 catches in the first Cat game. Many run plays have no. 84 being the/a key blocker.

2. How could the injuries have been avoided? Were the Cat tackles on those plays a bit dirty? The first one involved swinging from the hip with the lower body into the ankle/lower legs. Wasn’t that the definition of a hip drop? Dirty play and should have been a big penalty and first down.

3. How should/could UM have dealt with the early weak penalties called by the refs? Until into the 3d Q, UM couldn’t buy a break on a penalty. 2 penalties slowed UM’s progress to first downs.

4. Speaking of first downs, back to the injuries of 3 and 84. Those players would have helped with more 3d down conversions.

5. How could/should UM have avoided or dealt with injuries to defenders Ramos and wasn’t there anyone? How about the weak targeting call against Mikah? Didn’t look like targeting to me. And we had the guys stopped on 3d down, and lost Mikah.

6. That’s 5 starters out. Yes, I understand the injuries happen and teams have to deal with them. But how would your solutions have dealt with them?

7. Note that no. 3 is the regular holder for kicks. Recall the weak snap/hold when he was out and missed EP.

8. How would your solutions have avoided the complete screw up of alignment of players, and no edge, on the long run by Jones in the first half. That screw up in alignment/execution gave MSU an easy TD. Nothing hard about that run, except he was fast enough to stay ahead of our safety.

9. How would your solutions have avoided the long 88 yard TD pass on 3d and 20 in the 2d half? The one with the QB scramble out of the pocket and the nice reverse of pattern by Dowler. Did Bobby say in the interview that a UM defender had fall down on that play.? That was a huge place in multiple respects. Would having Harper in on the play have helped defend that long catch in the middle of the field?

10. How do you explain the Griz getting their offensive act together on the 3d drive of the game and then scoring in 4 straight drives? Does that happen with a bad or weak OL?

11. How would your solutions have avoided giving up 3 TD’s in 5.5 minutes? That was a devastating 5.5 minutes.

12. For a first down different of 23-18, a total offense difference of 449-347, and a 3d down conversion rates difference of 10-14 to 7-14, it seems that a point differential of 25 is alot.

13. Sacks were 3 for Cats to 1 for Griz. 1 for Griz is probably attributable to the fact that Ah Yat threw so many more passes. I note the Crews’ sack where UM’s center and guard inexplicably let him run between them straight at the QB? How would your solutions have avoided that break down in communication or execution? Judging just on sack numbers, the OL’s of the teams performed about the same, in my view.

14. How many conference honors winners would be in your OL? The Griz had a first team all-conference, second team all-conference and a frosh all-American. Is that the sign of a bad OL?

15. How do you explain all of the nice heartfelt Facebook posts by families of players, like Davis and Rocker, following the game and praising the program? Does that sound like a team going in the wrong direction or going nowhere? How about Rausch saying in the press conference that he loves his teammates and coaches. It was the most fun he’s ever had playing football.

Why is our genius special teams coach having a position player hold for kicks instead of the punter like every other team in America?

 

[mthoopsfan]

Why is our genius special teams coach having a position player hold for kicks instead of the punter like every other team in America?

Because Davis is a better holder, and the Griz run multiple two-point conversions and want to have a skill player in position to be involved in those plays. Why do you ask such dumb questions?

 

[5280Griz]

Because Davis is a better holder, and the Griz run multiple two-point conversions and want to have a skill player in position to be involved in those plays. Why do you ask such dumb questions?

It is a problem if he is a better holder because he is spending the majority of his time practicing offense whereas the punter is with the kicker and long snapper and has more time to practice holding. That does make sense as far as 2 point conversions which is why holders are usually position players in high school but it isn’t very common in college and pretty much unheard of nowadays in the pros.

 

[GriznMN]

Many who have looked at the film disagree with you on the targeting. The tackle on Davis was textbook major tackling penalty.

The Cats are going to get rolled by Ill St.

The targeting call was the right call. It was a tough call but it was the right call.

Hip drop tackle is not a penalty in college "While the NCAA has discussed banning this tackle due to safety concerns, they have not yet implemented a penalty for it, keeping it under review for future consideration."

Why do I have to keep educating you on college football Hoops? It is getting exhausting.

Finally, Cats are going to boat race the Redbirds. No I will not bet because I save my gambling for the stock market where I at least have more information.

 

[GriznMN]

No, it's because 84 is so good at blocking and big, that he can be key blocker at the point of attack. Had you ever played football, you would know that. Andrew Schmidt is clueless about OL play. The OL guys, or some who were on the team then, don't like him. I think it's funny when clueless football players site other clueless football players as their sources. Of course, UM adapted its play-calling. But when you best players are not leading some of your best plays, you won't be as good. You have not refuted any of my claims. You are just showing that you don't understand football. Talk to the coaches and get back to us. Heck, just listen to Bobby's post-game interview.

Your TE should not be your best blocker and this year, #84 TE, was our best blocker. That needs to be fixed NOW. If you can't admit that, it shows that you never played the game of football at a high level.

 

[Caturday24]

I’ve been lurking through EGriz for the past few days keeping up with the drama. Yes, I’m a cat fan but @mthoopsfan seems like an idiot and a douche. Buddy is replying to everyone who is against him EXCEPT the other cat fan who asked a simple question that completely derails his arguments. I’m falling for the bait too. He clearly loves the attention he’s getting.
Everyone who has a brain agrees that was targeting. Him saying it’s not is INSANE. The excuses of the injuries is even crazier. Yes, losing 2 starters sucks. But you still had KAY, Gillman, and Wortham. For hoops being so high and mighty about your offense, he seems to think they arnt as good as they actually are. If losing a freshman derails your entire game plan according to him, while you spell have 3 studs, the griz have MASSIVE problems. He completely disregards the cats losing dowler and Brott not even being close to 100% anyway, FOH hoops, people in this forum hate you, and they are fellow griz fans. You got big problems.

 

[Grizzinator]

Or, we could have a great coach and have had a great season with 2 bad losses to Cats. And there are no systemic problems, and a great future. Why don't you or Schmidt answer the questions? Why doesn't Schmidt ever back up what he says? I don't care if 2 things can be true. I want to know how Schmidt's ideas would have resolved these problems and issues.

I am not a doctor. Asking for specifics from fans on a college football message board about how individual medical conditions/injuries would be affected is absurd.

Respectfully disagree on the greatness of the coach and the season. The standard is to beat Bozeman, win the conference and win the Natty. We might be close but we’re still short and I can’t get to “great” until more of those goals are met.

 

[Skookum-Jim]

Many who have looked at the film disagree with you on the targeting. The tackle on Davis was textbook major tackling penalty.

The Cats are going to get rolled by Ill St.

Another $100 on the cats vs ill st?

 

[BrownBear9501]

I think we also need to prioritize getting linemen out of the portal that have developed at other schools. In the first Hauck era we had a lot of elite guys transfer in up front. Most of our guys besides Hunter Peck in the trenches were not transfers. He came from NAIA the guys I am talking about that we got during the Hauck 1.0 era came from the top of the FBS like Oklahoma and Oregon. Why are we not getting those guys anymore the second Hauck era?

I think the biggest reason is that before (Hauck 1.0) if guys transferred across they would have to sit a year therefore many opted down to FCS where they could play right away. That issue doesn’t exist anymore and players can go FBS to FBS now without having to sit. I honestly feel like the NAIA or D2 ranks are where to look for transfers. If an FBS guy is transferring to an FCS school in the current climate it raises red flags for me unless they are a freshmen or sophomore that has time to develop (which in that case they probably arent ready to be big contributors), or have been injury plagued like Solo was.

 

[GriznMN]

I think the biggest reason is that before (Hauck 1.0) if guys transferred across they would have to sit a year therefore many opted down to FCS where they could play right away. That issue doesn’t exist anymore and players can go FBS to FBS now without having to sit. I honestly feel like the NAIA or D2 ranks are where to look for transfers. If an FBS guy is transferring to an FCS school in the current climate it raises red flags for me unless they are a freshmen or sophomore that has time to develop (which in that case they probably arent ready to be big contributors), or have been injury plagued like Solo was.

Or they are stuck behind All Conference studs in the Big Ten or SEC and want a chance to play football again instead of being used for target practice.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

This doesn't seem like Tony was cornered in a press conference by Montana press. In fact, it's quite the opposite. He explicitly says he wants to coach at Montana.

Ferris State coach Tony Annese on 17-10 loss at Montana

I am doubtful, but Bobby isn't going anywhere any how.

 

[kemajic]

If an FBS guy is transferring to an FCS school in the current climate it raises red flags for me unless they are a freshmen or sophomore that has time to develop (which in that case they probably arent ready to be big contributors), or have been injury plagued like Solo was.

Lamson

 

[mthoopsfan]

I’ve been lurking through EGriz for the past few days keeping up with the drama. Yes, I’m a cat fan but @mthoopsfan seems like an idiot and a douche. Buddy is replying to everyone who is against him EXCEPT the other cat fan who asked a simple question that completely derails his arguments. I’m falling for the bait too. He clearly loves the attention he’s getting.
Everyone who has a brain agrees that was targeting. Him saying it’s not is INSANE. The excuses of the injuries is even crazier. Yes, losing 2 starters sucks. But you still had KAY, Gillman, and Wortham. For hoops being so high and mighty about your offense, he seems to think they arnt as good as they actually are. If losing a freshman derails your entire game plan according to him, while you spell have 3 studs, the griz have MASSIVE problems. He completely disregards the cats losing dowler and Brott not even being close to 100% anyway, FOH hoops, people in this forum hate you, and they are fellow griz fans. You got big problems.

The knowledgeable posters like me. Only the unknowledgeable ones don’t. I try to avoid attention.

 

[Allezchat]

I am doubtful, but Bobby isn't going anywhere any how.

Someone remind me, and i could be remembering a different program, but is Ferris state the program that has a reputation for bringing in kind of questionable transfers? Like players from higher levels that were kicked off teams at higher levels of college football? or suspended? Again I could be mixing them up with someone else.

 

[UncleRico]

Someone remind me, and i could be remembering a different program, but is Ferris state the program that has a reputation for bringing in kind of questionable transfers? Like players from higher levels that were kicked off teams at higher levels of college football? or suspended? Again I could be mixing them up with someone else.

I don’t think that is them. It might be Grand Valley State. But not certain. Both are close to each other near Grand Rapids and Holland. Kind of cool area. Brian Kelly coached there. Both have enrollments probably larger than most Big Sky schools.

 

[HikeGlacier]

No, it's because 84 is so good at blocking and big, that he can be key blocker at the point of attack. Had you ever played football, you would know that. Andrew Schmidt is clueless about OL play. The OL guys, or some who were on the team then, don't like him. I think it's funny when clueless football players site other clueless football players as their sources. Of course, UM adapted its play-calling. But when you best players are not leading some of your best plays, you won't be as good. You have not refuted any of my claims. You are just showing that you don't understand football. Talk to the coaches and get back to us. Heck, just listen to Bobby's post-game interview.

Yep, a runningback is clueless about O-line play. You're tool.

 

[AnotherGrizFan]

The knowledgeable posters like me. Only the unknowledgeable ones don’t. I try to avoid attention.

You try to avoid attention?? It’s hard to identify the most asinine thing you’ve ever said on this site but that’s damn sure a contender. There has never been a thread that you didn’t feel the need to insert your old worn out weak resume…or your family…or your pseudo wealth…or your over-inflated opinion of your extremely weak football knowledge.
As a text book narcissist you are always looking for attention…other than promoting Bobby it’s the only reason you are on this site.

 

[mthoopsfan]

The targeting call was the right call. It was a tough call but it was the right call.

Hip drop tackle is not a penalty in college "While the NCAA has discussed banning this tackle due to safety concerns, they have not yet implemented a penalty for it, keeping it under review for future consideration."

Why do I have to keep educating you on college football Hoops? It is getting exhausting.

Finally, Cats are going to boat race the Redbirds. No I will not bet because I save my gambling for the stock market where I at least have more information.

You don’t know enough educate me on anything. And you never even played the game. Try educating yourself. Hip drop is a dirty play and dangerous and illegal. “though the NCAA initially tabled a ban but adopted similar principles in 2024 to protect players by penalizing the specific act of
swiveling hips to trap a runner's leg below the knee.“ learn the rules of forget. You just got caught being wrong again. You didn’t see all the views of the targeting that others have.