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When is it going to leak out or get announced that Vigen is departing?

Mavman said:
Question for you all? Do FBS schools look very hard at things like the DUI scandal and this latest issue with Davis? The longer Vigen coaches at MSU the less attractive he becomes? Is that a possibility?
He is a very good coach however their might be more under the surface????

Any Fcs coach that takes a new position will have to leave their school even if they are in the playoffs.
The new recruiting windows and transfer portal will cause schools to not wait around IMO.
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Now when any alum/booster of a school that googles Vigen when they hear about him being a candidate will likely get results of the Davis debacle....that kid sure didn't help Vigen's image with his behavior toward a head coach with no consequences
 
406football said:
So Vigen is responsible for their rocket arms and athleticism? You can’t keep moving the goalpoasts here. They were both in run heavy offenses that didn’t produce huge passing numbers. You are acting like Vigen is Mike Leach.
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I mean, I thought it was widely understood that Allen got drafted despite having not-so-great college coaching. I don't follow very closely, and even I have seen several side-by-sides on "Look at him now compared what he was doing in college!" from a mechanical standpoint.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
I mean, I thought it was widely understood that Allen got drafted despite having not-so-great college coaching. I don't follow very closely, and even I have seen several side-by-sides on "Look at him now compared what he was doing in college!" from a mechanical standpoint.
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Most college coaches don't mess with mechanics too much. Quite frankly, outside of a select few, they aren't good enough nor do they have enough time. That's why most good QB's have an outside QB coach they use to work on mechanics. Heck, one of the better college coaches in regards to QB's (Jeff Tedford) was awful when it came to what NFL teams wanted. College coaches are teaching more scheme and repetition than anything else, and then it's probably just consistent footwork.

I would never call Vigen a QB guru by any means, because hardly anybody is. His QB's have consistently improved under his coaching though, and that's been true at multiple stops.
 
Bobcat99 said:
He wants to move up, obviously, but on his terms, and if that can't be met, then he's happy to stay.
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I keep seeing this said by bubz but there is no proof whatsoever. You guys constantly just make up a narrative, and if it echos around a group of bubz long enough, it must be true. But I don’t think it is. In fact, pretty sure you are guessing or making it up and the proof is the opposite—veggie wants the fuck out
 
garizzalies said:
I keep seeing this said by bubz but there is no proof whatsoever. You guys constantly just make up a narrative, and if it echos around a group of bubz long enough, it must be true. But I don’t think it is. In fact, pretty sure you are guessing or making it up and the proof is the opposite—veggie wants the fuck out
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Ima go out on a limb here and say "his terms" are: "so do you want the job?"
 
Mavman said:
Question for you all? Do FBS schools look very hard at things like the DUI scandal and this latest issue with Davis? The longer Vigen coaches at MSU the less attractive he becomes? Is that a possibility?
He is a very good coach however their might be more under the surface????

Any Fcs coach that takes a new position will have to leave their school even if they are in the playoffs.
The new recruiting windows and transfer portal will cause schools to not wait around IMO.
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You might be right, but winning the NC would elevate his status and his resume. He would be a hot commodity for openings in 2026. He might want to check the box with the NC thing and then be willing to jump before playoffs were over the next year. Does it makes sense? Probably and maybe he is just playing the long game. OSU and WSU aren’t exactly phenomenal opportunities if he has a long term vision for his career. Maybe he is just more patient, confident and futuristic than most people give him credit for. Then again, he may be a mediocre coach who doesn’t hold people accountable and loves to run the ball and clock.
 
Mavman said:
Question for you all? Do FBS schools look very hard at things like the DUI scandal and this latest issue with Davis? The longer Vigen coaches at MSU the less attractive he becomes? Is that a possibility?
He is a very good coach however their might be more under the surface????

Any Fcs coach that takes a new position will have to leave their school even if they are in the playoffs.
The new recruiting windows and transfer portal will cause schools to not wait around IMO.
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Yes, they look at those things, but unless it's a major scandal, which these are not, they move on to consider the other things.

I'm not so sure that he's a good/great coach. I just don't see the evidence at this point. Hasn't been a head coach that long. Came into a top level program. The prior coach's recruits. No national championship. Losses like SDSU at home. Almost losing to Yale. Can't beat the Dakota schools; at least. UM has done that at times. None of these are knock-out punches, but undercut the narrative of a great and up-and-coming coach.

A school like Oregon State or even WSU has to be careful about making a mistake. And an AD definitely has to be careful going down to FCS. If that don't work out, you're gone. Nevada-Reno is down on its luck and not OSU or WSU. That's why Choate got to Nevada-Reno. A school like CSU could take Vigen.

As for a coordinator job at a bigger school, I don't know if he's qualified to be a coordinator at a bigger school. What does he bring? Maybe there is more in his resume than I am aware of. Maybe a good friend of his will get a head coach and be more interested in him.

FBS jobs are available as the regular season ends. That's when he need to be prepared to go, and bolt on his team.

That's all I know and more.
 
Copper Griz said:
You might be right, but winning the NC would elevate his status and his resume. He would be a hot commodity for openings in 2026. He might want to check the box with the NC thing and then be willing to jump before playoffs were over the next year. Does it makes sense? Probably and maybe he is just playing the long game. OSU and WSU aren’t exactly phenomenal opportunities if he has a long term vision for his career. Maybe he is just more patient, confident and futuristic than most people give him credit for. Then again, he may be a mediocre coach who doesn’t hold people accountable and loves to run the ball and clock.
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Good post. Winning the NC isn't going to help him get a job this year, obviously.
 
Not related to the primary target here, but Jimmy Rogers just brought in Tyler Roehl to be his OC at Iowa State. Pretty intriguing given they coached and played against each other at SDSU and NDSU, and that the players really pushed to keep Tyler as HC instead of bringing in Polasek at the end of the ‘23 season when Entz left.
 
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EverettGriz said:
Ima go out on a limb here and say "his terms" are: "so do you want the job?"
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He wants to be able to coach his team through the playoffs. It happened last year, and this year. It was a dealbreaker for WSU and OSU. That doesn't mean they still would have chose him at the end of the day, but it is the ultimate reason they decided to go elsewhere. I think if a good enough program or big enough deal were to happen, he might back down on that, but those two jobs clearly weren't it.
 
Given the fluidity of NLI's and portal options, I don't think waiting until a top FCS coach is through the playoffs is necessarily that much of gamble. Maybe with high school recruits, but most coaches want to win now while they get high school players into the line up, and the portal and NIL will help them do that.
 
Bobcat99 said:
He wants to be able to coach his team through the playoffs. It happened last year, and this year. It was a dealbreaker for WSU and OSU. That doesn't mean they still would have chose him at the end of the day, but it is the ultimate reason they decided to go elsewhere. I think if a good enough program or big enough deal were to happen, he might back down on that, but those two jobs clearly weren't it.
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He is a good coach. I respect Vigen for sticking with his guys if that was the case. He gave up a lot of money. The current landscape with transfer portal and NIL have schools on shorter timetables and they have less patience. If WSU really wants him they would be fools to not let him finish season with Cats. It is three weeks at this point.
 
Bobcat99 said:
He wants to be able to coach his team through the playoffs. It happened last year, and this year. It was a dealbreaker for WSU and OSU. That doesn't mean they still would have chose him at the end of the day, but it is the ultimate reason they decided to go elsewhere. I think if a good enough program or big enough deal were to happen, he might back down on that, but those two jobs clearly weren't it.
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Nope. This is horse shit. You have no idea and not a scintilla of evidence to support your pipe dream. Just optimistic wishing or regurgitation from an empty echo chamber.
More than likely, the opposite is true—if either school offered, he would have been long gone.
 
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