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Vigen just landed in Portland… best thing for the Griz?

get'em_griz said:
I think NDSU, Montana and Montana State are the only programs at this level that can withstand a coaching change as long as the new coach doesn't rock the boat and completely change the traditions and style of play.
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agree...I still think the Cats will be a force to be reckon with...their fanbase will keep them motivated
and will probably have something to prove once their head coach is gone...Griz would do the same..
 
Blgs Griz Fan said:
States become a pass through college as far as coaches go.
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You say that like it’s a bad thing. We were once as well. Glenn moved on, Hauck moved on, Pflugrad would have if the current trajectory had held barring everything else. When you have coaches fighting to get to something bigger, it’s good for competition rather than complacency.
 
UncleRico said:
Entz coached NDSU in playoffs when they knew he was headed to join USC staff. MSU would let him coach through playoffs for sure.
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That may be true, but that may have been a different time. I wouldn’t want him coaching if I was Oregon State. Get recruiting and try and save as many players as possible. The portal is not something to play around with.
 
UncleRico said:
Entz coached NDSU in playoffs when they knew he was headed to join USC staff. MSU would let him coach through playoffs for sure.
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Entz was taking the LB/AHC position with USC, not the HC position. I doubt USC would have let him continue if he was becoming their HC.
 
Copper Griz said:
That may be true, but that may have been a different time. I wouldn’t want him coaching if I was Oregon State. Get recruiting and try and save any players as possible. The portal is not something to play around with.
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Copper is right. This is a different time. Back then, kids couldn't leave. Or could only transfer down a level. Right now, you have to be recruiting the whole team to come back, especially after a coaching hire.

If Hauck left right now, we would be screaming for a new coach to be hired quickly so that he would keep all our best players, before someone else poaches them. Heck, there is a thread right now about all the talent in the transfer portal from the teams that have lost coaches in the last three days.

A new coach has to be able to come in, start hiring a staff, evaluate the current staff for any retention, recruit the current team (or most of them) to stay, recruit the HS kids (or at least some of them after evaluating them) that were committed to the previous coach, meet the press, glad hand the boosters ($$$$$$), rev up the fan base ($$$$$) after a tough season, and recruit some of your own players to come with you. How can any coach do all that, and continue to coach their current team? Especially, the last part. If you stick around your old team, are you just at risk for taking more of them with you to your new team.

I like that the athletes have more control and can make NIL and have more opportunity to transfer and play. The timing of everything else is just what makes for a terrible process. IF you couldn't fire coaches until after everyone's season ended, that would stop the madness of coaches poaching players from their old teams and mass exodus of players leaving when a coach gets fired, before the new coach is hired. But that's not going to happen with the amount of money at stake.
 
GallatinGriz03 said:
Copper is right. This is a different time. Back then, kids couldn't leave. Or could only transfer down a level. Right now, you have to be recruiting the whole team to come back, especially after a coaching hire.

If Hauck left right now, we would be screaming for a new coach to be hired quickly so that he would keep all our best players, before someone else poaches them. Heck, there is a thread right now about all the talent in the transfer portal from the teams that have lost coaches in the last three days.

A new coach has to be able to come in, start hiring a staff, evaluate the current staff for any retention, recruit the current team (or most of them) to stay, recruit the HS kids (or at least some of them after evaluating them) that were committed to the previous coach, meet the press, glad hand the boosters ($$$$$$), rev up the fan base ($$$$$) after a tough season, and recruit some of your own players to come with you. How can any coach do all that, and continue to coach their current team? Especially, the last part. If you stick around your old team, are you just at risk for taking more of them with you to your new team.

I like that the athletes have more control and can make NIL and have more opportunity to transfer and play. The timing of everything else is just what makes for a terrible process. IF you couldn't fire coaches until after everyone's season ended, that would stop the madness of coaches poaching players from their old teams and mass exodus of players leaving when a coach gets fired, before the new coach is hired. But that's not going to happen with the amount of money at stake.
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Additionally, would you want the outgoing head coach to be in the locker room? Isn't any conversation the outgoing coach has just an opportunity for him to recruit players he would want to bring with them?

It would be a tough choice between telling the coach he is banned from campus, which would hurt your playoff chances, or letting him stick around to coach out the playoffs while having chances to pull kids away. I wouldn't want to be an AD trying to find that balance.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
Additionally, would you want the outgoing head coach to be in the locker room? Isn't any conversation the outgoing coach has just an opportunity for him to recruit players he would want to bring with them?

It would be a tough choice between telling the coach he is banned from campus, which would hurt your playoff chances, or letting him stick around to coach out the playoffs while having chances to pull kids away. I wouldn't want to be an AD trying to find that balance.
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He should be band!
 
GriznMN said:
Entz was taking the LB/AHC position with USC, not the HC position. I doubt USC would have let him continue if he was becoming their HC.
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I would be surprised if part of the negotiations is that he gets to finish the season with the Cats. But yes the transfer portal and getting players in to school before semester starts I am sure would be something he would have to manage and a consideration. But I am predicting that if he gets this job he will be coaching the Cats til the end of their season on December 20.
 
Ursa Major said:
Sixx seems to be a good man and all but in my mind if he takes the OSU job he’s 3-4 years away from dismissal and humiliation. Then he’ll likely join Choate as a drifter, riding the rails out west, making stone soup with any local that can put up with their boring ass stories.
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There is A LOT of truth in this statement.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
Additionally, would you want the outgoing head coach to be in the locker room? Isn't any conversation the outgoing coach has just an opportunity for him to recruit players he would want to bring with them?

It would be a tough choice between telling the coach he is banned from campus, which would hurt your playoff chances, or letting him stick around to coach out the playoffs while having chances to pull kids away. I wouldn't want to be an AD trying to find that balance.
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100%! It would be really tough for an AD and probably depends on the coach and how the year is going, and his relationship with the AD. Vigen and the Cats, with the #2 seed, good chance at making the Natty, plus his relationship with Costello, would probably let him stay and coach the season out. But OSU might not.
 
Copper Griz said:
That may be true, but that may have been a different time. I wouldn’t want him coaching if I was Oregon State. Get recruiting and try and save as many players as possible. The portal is not something to play around with.
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Honestly might be the best move for him to skip OSU/Colorado State. Looks like UC might be open next year
 
GallatinGriz03 said:
100%! It would be really tough for an AD and probably depends on the coach and how the year is going, and his relationship with the AD. Vigen and the Cats, with the #2 seed, good chance at making the Natty, plus his relationship with Costello, would probably let him stay and coach the season out. But OSU might not.
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I really cannot disagree with your take, but ponder this. Why would Vigen jeopardize an already challenging start with OSU? He is moving on for bigger dollars and a move to FBS as a head coach. We all love Montana sports and the FCS. It is simply a stepping stone job for the Nevada’s, UNLV’s, CSU’s of the world.
 
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