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Soccer today

I hope the Seelhoff injury isn’t serious… feels like the injury bug has bitten strongly the past few years. I don’t know enough to know if it’s common across collegiate soccer, but noteworthy nevertheless.
 
Here's the current conference standings. Even though Montana is in 1st currently, they are not in the driver's seat necessarily because of the skewed scheduling and uneven games played so far. For example, if UM wins out, they could get to 17 points. While if WSU wins out, they would have 18 points. (PSU has the highest potential points of 19 if they were to win out).

TEAM​
CONF. RECORD​
POINTS​
GAMES REMAINING​
Montana3-1-2112 = Sac St., @PSU
Weber State3-293 = @NAU, @UNC, @ISU
Idaho2-1-283 = @PSU, UNC, NAU
Portland State2-1-174 = EWU, UI, UM, @Sac State
Idaho State2-2-173 = @UNC, @NAU, WSU
Sacramento State2-3-172 = @UM, PSU
Northern Arizona1-2-144 = WSU, ISU, @EWU, @UI
Northern Colorado1-2-144 = ISU, WSU, @UI, @EWU
Eastern Washington1-3-143 = @PSU, NAU, UNC
 
grizpdx406 said:
I hope the Seelhoff injury isn’t serious… feels like the injury bug has bitten strongly the past few years. I don’t know enough to know if it’s common across collegiate soccer, but noteworthy nevertheless.
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Her gait didn't seem to be bothered. I almost think it had something to do with bracing for landing and hurting a hand, wrist, elbow, arm, shoulder, collar bone, etc. It looked like the trainer was supporting her arm up as they walked off. Which, if true, I would think would be easier to play with than a leg injury so it would be a good sign to get her back sooner, hopefully.
 
grizpdx406 said:
I hope the Seelhoff injury isn’t serious… feels like the injury bug has bitten strongly the past few years. I don’t know enough to know if it’s common across collegiate soccer, but noteworthy nevertheless.
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Not this common. 25% of the team is out for the year with either ACLs (5 or 6) and other injuries, including today's (ugh). It is either a mathematical anomaly of bad luck, or the way we're strength-training them. Women's soccer players should be strength-trained like they are women and are soccer players, particularly in ways that can significantly reduce ACL injuries among women. Such strength training would be night-and-day different from a football player or any "traditional" weight lifter. Or a men's soccer player, for that matter.

Do we do that???
 
astutegriz said:
Not this common. 25% of the team is out for the year with either ACLs (5 or 6) and other injuries, including today's (ugh). It is either a mathematical anomaly of bad luck, or the way we're strength-training them. Women's soccer players should be strength-trained like they are women and are soccer players, particularly in ways that can significantly reduce ACL injuries among women. Such strength training would be night-and-day different from a football player or any "traditional" weight lifter. Or a men's soccer player, for that matter.

Do we do that???
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Great insights - I hope we are doing those little things, but I’m not sure and outside looking in it’s hard to see so many key injuries year after year. The comprehensive list we could make over the last few years with season ending injuries team would compete to win the Big Sky by themselves.
 
astutegriz said:
Not this common. 25% of the team is out for the year with either ACLs (5 or 6) and other injuries, including today's (ugh). It is either a mathematical anomaly of bad luck, or the way we're strength-training them. Women's soccer players should be strength-trained like they are women and are soccer players, particularly in ways that can significantly reduce ACL injuries among women. Such strength training would be night-and-day different from a football player or any "traditional" weight lifter. Or a men's soccer player, for that matter.

Do we do that???
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Exactly what I was going to say. I can’t imagine they aren’t. It is division 1. ..and common knowledge in the sports world.
 
This year seems like it's been especially bad. I know we've had season ending injuries in the past, but this year seems like it's a whole new level. This is like Lady Griz under Shannon bad. I think we can chalk it up to bad luck and hopefully Citowicki in the offseason can do a deeper dive into weight training and evaluate all that stuff.
 
Nice win against ISU. I wonder why Dvorak did not play the whole game like she has for the past several weeks. Was she injured or did Citowicki just want to give #2 some playing time. Personally I think Dvorak is the better goal keeper.
 
Griz66 said:
Nice win against ISU. I wonder why Dvorak did not play the whole game like she has for the past several weeks. Was she injured or did Citowicki just want to give #2 some playing time. Personally I think Dvorak is the better goal keeper.
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Injury? Did she heal over the 45 minutes of the first half, lol?

Instead of piling on, I give the second string mucho props. The announcers sang her praises as she kept them in the game with save after save until Montana woke up in the second half. The announcers seemed surprised that they made a switch at halftime instead of staying with the hot hand. It wouldn't have mattered as ISU never made a serious threat to score in the second half, but I'm confused with you.

Chippy game.
 
Griz til I die said:
This year seems like it's been especially bad. I know we've had season ending injuries in the past, but this year seems like it's a whole new level. This is like Lady Griz under Shannon bad. I think we can chalk it up to bad luck and hopefully Citowicki in the offseason can do a deeper dive into weight training and evaluate all that stuff.
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Exactly. The women's basketball ACL situation back then was what made me wonder about this team. There was questioning of strength training techniques at that time. Maybe things haven't changed at UM?
 
astutegriz said:
Exactly. The women's basketball ACL situation back then was what made me wonder about this team. There was questioning of strength training techniques at that time. Maybe things haven't changed at UM?
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Possible complacency?

I personally loved what men’s basketball did by going out last year and hiring Andrew Berrier. An absolute weapon who I’d imagine will get swept up in the coming years. Makes a huge difference within a program.
 
grizpdx406 said:
I hope the Seelhoff injury isn’t serious… feels like the injury bug has bitten strongly the past few years. I don’t know enough to know if it’s common across collegiate soccer, but noteworthy nevertheless.
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She is out with a broken collar bone, the amount of injuries this year and last are astronomical and needs to be addressed. Sad season for soccer...again.
 
Griz til I die said:
Despite all that they just keep on winning.
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Really a testament to this coaching staff. With the turnaround at Weber this year the WSU coach probably has a good argument for Coach Of The Year honors but I hope Citowicki will be recognized for all the adversity his staff/program has overcome.

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Or is there a chance we could get some back?
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There has been mentioned that they are expecting Reeve Borseth back sometime this season but I almost wonder if it would be better at this point if she got a medical redshirt and came back next year for a whole season (that is, of course, if she were interested in extending her studies).
 
astutegriz said:
Injury? Did she heal over the 45 minutes of the first half, lol?

Instead of piling on, I give the second string mucho props. The announcers sang her praises as she kept them in the game with save after save until Montana woke up in the second half. The announcers seemed surprised that they made a switch at halftime instead of staying with the hot hand. It wouldn't have mattered as ISU never made a serious threat to score in the second half, but I'm confused with you.

Chippy game.
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The fact that Dvorak was just named Big Sky defensive player of the week, I think justifies my comment of two days ago. Both are excellent players and goalies and I just happen to think that Dvorak is better and her overall record speaks for itself.
 
Griz66 said:
her overall record speaks for itself.
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Ok. This claim made me check. Interestingly, Flynn has a better record and stats than Dvorak over many games over their career. Similar accolades. If records speak more than opinion as you say, Dvorak is great but a clear second best. If you feel these facts are misleading, then the record does not speak for itself.

Also, the award this week helps validate she is good, not that she is the better of the two as you state, particularly when she got credit for Flynn’s stats on Sunday to win this.
 
Latest RPIs (through Oct. 14):

TEAMRPIRESULT
Southern Utah309W 3-0
Seattle69T 1-1
Baylor4L 0-2
Boise State173L 1-2
Nevada271W 2-1
MSU BillingsNon DIW 5-0
UC Davis261W 1-0
Gonzaga141W 4-0
Washington State142W 1-0
Northern Arizona270L 1-2
Northern Colorado283W 2-0
Eastern Washington254T 1-1
Idaho208T 0-0
Weber State117W 4-0
Idaho State240W 1-0
Sacramento State273
Portland State288

Montana is currently 115 (out of 350).
BTW, Denver (who was a participant in The Rumble in the Rockies Tournament but didn't play UM) is 55.
 
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