oldngrizzly
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So there was some mention by Sac that the teams that play in the FCS are JV. Wondering how would you classify them overall ?
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How would you classify the FCS football teams ?
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alabamagrizzly
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Going out on a limb here, I’d probably say FCS maybe?
Not sure what you are asking, however I'll take a stab.
Top 30 FCS teams are probably FBS mid major level teams.
Starting talent on top 25 FCS teams are as good as most FBS teams and then depth is the issue.
Patriot league and HBCU teams and bottom teams from BSC, CAA and other conferences are probably mid level D-II teams.
Top 30 FCS teams are probably FBS mid major level teams.
Starting talent on top 25 FCS teams are as good as most FBS teams and then depth is the issue.
Patriot league and HBCU teams and bottom teams from BSC, CAA and other conferences are probably mid level D-II teams.
oldngrizzly
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Thank you for your opinion.I was not looking for replies from the CJC but still managed a couple.Thankfully most have me on ignore so their replies will not happen.That being said what teams would you classify as mid major FBS.I don't think most of the past FCS teams with the exception of North Dakota could compete on an even basis with most FBS throughout league play.
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I feel Mavman answered your question. Personally, I would say the top 15 FCS teams would be a FBS mid-major team.
alabamagrizzly
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My bad, I was under the impression this wasn’t a serious question.
oldngrizzly
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It was not one for you to answer or could you as you don't have that intelligence to do that.
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alabamagrizzly
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My intelligence is camouflaged by lack of caring to give a legitimate answer. You’ll never see it.
I think it would take a few years with even scholarships and recruiting at the FBS level.
Liberty, JMU and others have competed at the next level. The top ten in the FCS would be in the top half of MAC, Sunbelt and MWC conferences.
Here is the rub though NIL would be the hardest to overcome to build and become consistent in the FBS.
I can see the three conferences I mentioned and some schools from other conferences dropping down to a new FCS. The current FCS schools would need to determine if they want to compete with the paying of players or drop a division. When the “new” FBS is formed maybe the NIL amounts may not be as crazy for teams in the new “FcS???
footballdood
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To me a top 5ish FCS could help up with a top FBS on a good day. And chances are, the FCS team won't end up being the toughest game on the schedule.
Top FCS > bottom rung FBS
Top FCS = mid tier FBS
Top 20ish FCS > best of the worst bottom tier FBS
Top 20ish FCS on a good day as good as a mid tier FBS and a possible upset
Also consider that FCS always plays on the road after what I believe was Idaho having away games at Montana forcing conference role rule changes?
Top FCS > bottom rung FBS
Top FCS = mid tier FBS
Top 20ish FCS > best of the worst bottom tier FBS
Top 20ish FCS on a good day as good as a mid tier FBS and a possible upset
Also consider that FCS always plays on the road after what I believe was Idaho having away games at Montana forcing conference role rule changes?
701Grizfan
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FCS today is a far cry from the days when they were classified as 1-AA. So much deeper in terms of the the amount of quality programs between 1980 - 2002. The FCS today has 10-12 programs that are fbs mid major quality year in year out. If anybody is JV, it’s the city of Sacramento, total dump.
5280Griz
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The top players in the FCS especially at skill positions and special teams like Junior Bergen for example would find playing time on most FBS teams. The differences are with depth as even the third string players on FBS are very good, particularly on the offensive and defensive lines. The lower FCS non scholarship leagues like the Ivy and Pioneer are closer to D2 than the Big Sky and Missouri Valley.
oldngrizzly
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The cats had all they could handle with New Mexico and at least at that time New Mexico sucked at the beginning of the season. As it sits right now we are not at any FBS level.So if the cats were #2 in the FCS and had all they could hand with New Mexico where does that put the rest of the teams ? JV ? Maybe SAC was but I would say the top 15 FCS are not mid major FBS right now.
5280Griz
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The top 1 FCS NDSU is FBS mid major or better. The next tier of FCS programs like Montana, Montana State, South Dakota and South Dakota State are probably not at a mid FBS level but could pull of an upset against even high level FBS teams if things go their way.
Given all the blowouts in the FCS first round playoffs, I think maybe 5 teams, at best, could compete in FBS G6 level every week
5280Griz
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I think one team, NDSU can compete in FBS G6 level every week. There is a second tier with maybe 10 teams that can upset G6 or power 5 teams but will lose more games than they win.
SinCityGriz2005
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Really, as I recall, not too long ago the Grizzlies beat a nationally ranked Udub team. I mean it may have been in an alternate universe, but I am pretty sure I recall all but losing my head when that 4th quarter came to a close. I also recall Oregon State getting beaten by the Griz a couple of times, BEFORE the advent of the portal. Living on the east coast, and in fact two miles from Marshall, I can guarantee that UM is every bit as competitive as Marshall, Ohio University, Uh JMU? Appalachian, etc.
oldngrizzly
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It's called "On Any Given Day".Sure it could and will happen but not on a regular schedule would they be able to compete as a FBS mid major.With the portal things have changed esp.this upcoming season.They are certainly moving in the right direction.We will see.
