horribilisfan8184
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Eliminate the reader comments? Since Florio returned my visits have gone from rarely to almost never. Not surprised to see the RIF carnage to editors including sports editor as losses mount.
AllWeatherFan said:Removing reader comments was the right thing to do. People can write letters to the editor.
Raider said:AllWeatherFan said:Removing reader comments was the right thing to do. People can write letters to the editor.
I could not agree more.
The only problem with the Letter to the Editor is that people have to put their name on it, and cannot hide behind an anonymous screen name.
About six months ago, a guy I know was attacked on the Missoulian online comments by some coward making all sort of bogus accusations. He/she used an article about a family member getting into some trouble as an opportunity to bash him. The story had nothing to do with him at all, but the punk posted a half dozen very derogatory comments about him. The Missoulian, of course, did nothing to stop it. He is a good guy, and a local business owner. It was bullshit. Unfortunately, the anonymous nature of things like this is a breeding ground for cowards.
Glendivegriz said:Gazette did it a few months ago. I'm torn on the practice. While I see that many of the comments got totally out of hand, it does shut down the public comment. I realize that letters to the editor are there, however, they can be selective in the practice of publishing them.
BWahlberg said:Glendivegriz said:Gazette did it a few months ago. I'm torn on the practice. While I see that many of the comments got totally out of hand, it does shut down the public comment. I realize that letters to the editor are there, however, they can be selective in the practice of publishing them.
People still tee off on facebook with it and it's somewhat tied to actual names so it would seem the discussions will continue there.
Oh, so what? Everyone knows the comments are personal opinions. Comments allow people to vent. Yes, civility would be nice, but we need thick skins. Idiotic comments soon get countered by their peers. I'm on a few Web forums. One is unmonitored, well, w/in some limits, but people post what they feel. It gives people like me insight into the varied opinions people have about issues.Raider said:AllWeatherFan said:Removing reader comments was the right thing to do. People can write letters to the editor.
I could not agree more.
The only problem with the Letter to the Editor is that people have to put their name on it, and cannot hide behind an anonymous screen name.
About six months ago, a guy I know was attacked on the Missoulian online comments by some coward making all sort of bogus accusations. He/she used an article about a family member getting into some trouble as an opportunity to bash him. The story had nothing to do with him at all, but the punk posted a half dozen very derogatory comments about him. The Missoulian, of course, did nothing to stop it. He is a good guy, and a local business owner. It was bullshit. Unfortunately, the anonymous nature of things like this is a breeding ground for cowards.
Grizzoola said:Oh, so what? Everyone knows the comments are personal opinions. Comments allow people to vent. Yes, civility would be nice, but we need thick skins. Idiotic comments soon get countered by their peers. I'm on a few Web forums. One is unmonitored, well, w/in some limits, but people post what they feel. It gives people like me insight into the varied opinions people have about issues.Raider said:AllWeatherFan said:Removing reader comments was the right thing to do. People can write letters to the editor.
I could not agree more.
The only problem with the Letter to the Editor is that people have to put their name on it, and cannot hide behind an anonymous screen name.
About six months ago, a guy I know was attacked on the Missoulian online comments by some coward making all sort of bogus accusations. He/she used an article about a family member getting into some trouble as an opportunity to bash him. The story had nothing to do with him at all, but the punk posted a half dozen very derogatory comments about him. The Missoulian, of course, did nothing to stop it. He is a good guy, and a local business owner. It was bullshit. Unfortunately, the anonymous nature of things like this is a breeding ground for cowards.
For example, it's both informative and entertaining to read some comments that to me are far out, but it shows the span of opinion in our community. As to requiring actual names, how's the Missoulian going to ensure the name is actual and not an alias? Hire more staff? No, keep present system of comments.
Grizzoola said:Oh, so what? Everyone knows the comments are personal opinions. Comments allow people to vent. Yes, civility would be nice, but we need thick skins. Idiotic comments soon get countered by their peers. I'm on a few Web forums. One is unmonitored, well, w/in some limits, but people post what they feel. It gives people like me insight into the varied opinions people have about issues.Raider said:AllWeatherFan said:Removing reader comments was the right thing to do. People can write letters to the editor.
I could not agree more.
The only problem with the Letter to the Editor is that people have to put their name on it, and cannot hide behind an anonymous screen name.
About six months ago, a guy I know was attacked on the Missoulian online comments by some coward making all sort of bogus accusations. He/she used an article about a family member getting into some trouble as an opportunity to bash him. The story had nothing to do with him at all, but the punk posted a half dozen very derogatory comments about him. The Missoulian, of course, did nothing to stop it. He is a good guy, and a local business owner. It was bullshit. Unfortunately, the anonymous nature of things like this is a breeding ground for cowards.
For example, it's both informative and entertaining to read some comments that to me are far out, but it shows the span of opinion in our community. As to requiring actual names, how's the Missoulian going to ensure the name is actual and not an alias? Hire more staff? No, keep present system of comments.
Flattered, perhaps concerned, Raider that you follow me so closely. Why couldn't you and your guy's friends respond to the erroneous comment? It's a forum, free speech. Idiodic comments are soon spotted by regular readers of these comments, and for the most part, ignored. That's what a public forum is all about. I'm finally getting a thick skin after several years of "abuse" on eGriz.Raider said:I know you were a frequent Missoulian comment poster, so not surprisingly, you missed the point “David2”. Posting your personal opinion is one thing. Posting blatantly false and derogatory information about a local business owner is completely different. How would you like some anonymous person posting information on the Missoulian comment section, using your full name and business, calling you a drunk and a wife beater? Especially when it’s completely fabricated. Would it be “oh, so what” then?Grizzoola said:Oh, so what? Everyone knows the comments are personal opinions. Comments allow people to vent. Yes, civility would be nice, but we need thick skins. Idiotic comments soon get countered by their peers. I'm on a few Web forums. One is unmonitored, well, w/in some limits, but people post what they feel. It gives people like me insight into the varied opinions people have about issues.
For example, it's both informative and entertaining to read some comments that to me are far out, but it shows the span of opinion in our community. As to requiring actual names, how's the Missoulian going to ensure the name is actual and not an alias? Hire more staff? No, keep present system of comments.
Grizzoola said:Flattered, perhaps concerned, Raider that you follow me so closely. Why couldn't you and your guy's friends respond to the erroneous comment? It's a forum, free speech. Idiodic comments are soon spotted by regular readers of these comments, and for the most part, ignored. That's what a public forum is all about. I'm finally getting a thick skin after several years of "abuse" on eGriz.Raider said:I know you were a frequent Missoulian comment poster, so not surprisingly, you missed the point “David2”. Posting your personal opinion is one thing. Posting blatantly false and derogatory information about a local business owner is completely different. How would you like some anonymous person posting information on the Missoulian comment section, using your full name and business, calling you a drunk and a wife beater? Especially when it’s completely fabricated. Would it be “oh, so what” then?Grizzoola said:Oh, so what? Everyone knows the comments are personal opinions. Comments allow people to vent. Yes, civility would be nice, but we need thick skins. Idiotic comments soon get countered by their peers. I'm on a few Web forums. One is unmonitored, well, w/in some limits, but people post what they feel. It gives people like me insight into the varied opinions people have about issues.
For example, it's both informative and entertaining to read some comments that to me are far out, but it shows the span of opinion in our community. As to requiring actual names, how's the Missoulian going to ensure the name is actual and not an alias? Hire more staff? No, keep present system of comments.
kyle_sample said:There is an easy alternative to this: read Missoula Current and Skyline Sports. Minus high school sports coverage (which is something we'd eventually like to add) and education reporting (which I'm sure the Current would like to add if it could support it) these two combined sites do everything the Missoulian does, but better, for a fraction of the cost