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Cat-Griz Quiz
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statler & waldorf
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Player Rep is right. What is the relevance(to Griz fans)of the dates you cherry picked? Admittedly, you are a cat fan. Let's put a title to the 2010-18 period:
1) The 'Phew! Bobby Hauck's is finally gone' period?
2) Ah, the 'Pflu-Delaney-Stitt reprieve' period?
3) Perhaps, the 'Engstrom inspired irrelevance' period.
How about the 1986-2001 period, much more interesting to Griz fans. And, it comes with its own title: "THE STREAK!"
1) The 'Phew! Bobby Hauck's is finally gone' period?
2) Ah, the 'Pflu-Delaney-Stitt reprieve' period?
3) Perhaps, the 'Engstrom inspired irrelevance' period.
How about the 1986-2001 period, much more interesting to Griz fans. And, it comes with its own title: "THE STREAK!"
You do realize there is an option missing.
statler & waldorf
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You could use the 'edit' function to include your explanation into your original post, jDoub. Didn't mean to pick a scab...well, actually, I did! :lol: :thumb:
Catsrgrood
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statler & waldorf said:
I know this has been beaten to death, but as its been pointed out before, either side can cherry pick certain dates to "prove their point". I think OP's dates are relevant because they're this most recent and the current decade, period.
You point out the streak, yes, that sucked for Cat fans. But you're "cherry picking" that start date too. Look at the 30 years prior to the beginning of the streak, the Cats went 22-8 against the Griz from 56'-85'.
Before that, it was downright ugly for the Cats, going 4-37-5 in a 46 year span, after starting the series 6-3.
The overall record is what it is, I'd brag about it too if it was in the favor of the Cats, but I think the most relevant and apples to apples comparison that can be made is either starting in 57' when they were both officially members of the NCAA or 63' when they both were charter members of the Big Sky.
Since 63' it's 24-30, in favor of the Griz.
Since 57' it's 28-32, in favor of the Griz.
I know there is a lot of pride on this site when it comes to the overall record (justifiably so), and I'm certainly not going to sway anyone from that point of view, just throwing some facts out there.
statler & waldorf
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Good post. Basically, if you go on the others web site, and talk unsubstantiated, unexplained bullshit, que sera, sera. No one doubts the cats relative resurgence and Griz decline. Compound that with the different ages, and thus, experiences of various posters, relevance takes on a whole new perspective. I prefer to live in the 'relatively' recent past. It's more pleasant, from a 'older' Griz perspective.
JDoub
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actually, no I didn'tstatler & waldorf said:
simple exercise from a simple mind -- how closely does perception match reality, including my own
perceptions contain fascinating bias, I did this informally going into DeNarius McGhee's final game (which was an embarrassment to us Cat fans) and was genuinely surprised at the answers -- significantly skewed towards the Griz and way off the true record, even among Cat fans. Likely after effects of the Streak and Griz dominance in the 90's-2000's. But the current decade seems to have reset many perceptions and expectations. I'm a recovering engineer with dabbling interests like this.
statler & waldorf
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JDoub said:
"...every day, in every way, I'm getting better, and better." --Dreyfus, 'The Pink Panther Strikes Again.'
:lol:
There is only one statistic that counts in this rivalry, and that is 73-39, (ties are not considered)!
You can pick a decade or so to show a trend but to use a cherry picked period in a rivalry spanning over a century to draw a conclusion about who the best team at this point in time is both statistically and historically inaccurate. Particularly in a series with the ebbs and flows of this one.
You can pick a decade or so to show a trend but to use a cherry picked period in a rivalry spanning over a century to draw a conclusion about who the best team at this point in time is both statistically and historically inaccurate. Particularly in a series with the ebbs and flows of this one.
Gaeilge1 said:
And to look at numbers that paint a more realistic picture of how the programs have stacked up against one another over time, you should really just look at the years where the two teams played in the same division. I mean, I know that doesn't make the numbers look so lopsided for your guys but it's really the only fair way to look at it. Don't get me wrong, I really could give a couple shits about how much you want to brag about beating up on a team when the odds are stacked in your favor but go for it if it makes you happy. One comparison is in say boxing or wrestling. If I'm a good boxer and I fight in the middle weight division, but end up fighting guys that are welter weights, and kick their asses, I wouldn't exactly brag too much about that accomplishment.