With Griz loss to EWU and Eagles should finish 8-3 or 7-4....and NAU and Southern Utah both having wins against ranked MIssouri Valley teams/other ranked teams and looking to likely finish 8-3 or 7-4....If Griz lose this weekend against Weber are they out of playoffs? Could a 7-4 (even 8-3 of somehow finishing strong) Griz team...as they would probably be 5th in Conference make the playoffs? I thought they could lose to Weber and recover...not sure now. What am I missing?
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With Southern Utah/NAU emergence, is Weber must win to make playoffs?
- Thread starter I.M.O.#90-C.C.
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I.M.O.#90-C.C. said:
As of now, sure. Those numbers will change quite a bit over the next 4 games with some teams playing up and others playing down.
BadlandsGrizFan
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HookedonGriz said:
Strength of schedule...not as important as the strength of the US Dollar.
7-4 Griz team will be left out of playoffs. If the Big Sky has several teams tie for division lead at 7-4, which I can't see happening, the Griz will be home for Thanksgiving eating turkey. The only way this Griz team is to make the playoffs is with at 8-3 record.
oGriz
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It would be nice to have the selection criteria available, but it is as easily found these days. (Post it here if you can).
Hero Sports post this in an article last fall: Strength of schedule, Division I wins, FBS wins, and ranked wins have all been selection criteria in the past.
Dave Bartoo, a data analyst, consultant and founder of www.cfbmatrix.com, said it is misguided to emphasize strength of schedule because calculating it accurately is not possible, no matter how it's done. "A lot of people want to believe that strength of schedule is a valid stat for separating teams," he said. "It's not the best one or the worst one. They are all about a coin flip." There are not enough data points in college football to make a good sample size to study strength of schedule because teams play so few games and the best teams rarely play each other, Bartoo said.
Hero Sports post this in an article last fall: Strength of schedule, Division I wins, FBS wins, and ranked wins have all been selection criteria in the past.
Dave Bartoo, a data analyst, consultant and founder of www.cfbmatrix.com, said it is misguided to emphasize strength of schedule because calculating it accurately is not possible, no matter how it's done. "A lot of people want to believe that strength of schedule is a valid stat for separating teams," he said. "It's not the best one or the worst one. They are all about a coin flip." There are not enough data points in college football to make a good sample size to study strength of schedule because teams play so few games and the best teams rarely play each other, Bartoo said.
oGriz said:
A few years ago the NCAA implemented the simple rating system (SRS) that supposedly captures all of the things you mentioned above. Here is a link to that with the latest grades. They have UM at 29. This isn't all that factors into a playoff choice but it is a big part:
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/simple-ratings-system
EDIT: Scratch that that is from last year and it is not updated for this year
Stop_HammerTime69
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AZDoc said:
Exactly. One game at a time, and right now, yes, Weber is a must-win, because it is the game right in front of us.
Stop_HammerTime69
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dbackjon said:
Yeah, I'd agree with that. However, one thing I'm not clear on is whether this is measuring our overall schedule or just the games we've played.
If it's the latter, NAU, Weber, and our own strength of schedule will increase dramatically over the coming weeks.
If it doesn't, well, then we have every right to call horseshit, because the Big Sky is not a G5 to the rest of the FCS' Power 5.
NAUJacksFan
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Stop_HammerTime69 said:
This is through games played and doesn’t consider future opponents.
GrizMusician
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oGriz said:
I think this post got lost in the discussion... a 8-3 Griz team is definitely in. A 7-4 Griz team is less likely, but I still like their chances.
7-4 with wins over Valpo, Sav. St., PSU, ISU, UND, UNC, & MSU? Not a quality win in the bunch. I personally don't think that team should be in the playoffs and I don't like their chances in spite of the $$$ advantage UM provides. A win over either Weber or NAU changes that. This team needs to continue to peak to be relevant and worthy of playoff consideration.GrizMusician said: