• Hi Guest, want to participate in the discussions, keep track of read/unread posts and more? Create your free account and increase the benefits of your eGriz.com experience today!

What should UM D have done better in 2d half?

P

PlayerRep

Well-known member
What should the Griz D have done in the 2d half? Having held EWU to 2 FG's in the first half, I assume big adjustments were not needed at halftime.

How should UM have adjusted to stop the passes in the second half? Let's see some specifics. I don't really have any good ideas or specific ideas.
 
PlayerRep said:
What should the Griz D have done in the 2d half? Having held EWU to 2 FG's in the first half, I assume big adjustments were not needed at halftime.

How should UM have adjusted to stop the passes in the second half? Let's see some specifics. I don't really have any good ideas or specific ideas.
Click to expand...

Jamming WR at the line? Sliding an outside LB to help (which decreases QB pressure but that didn't matter since he was throwing it quickly)?
 
Honestly they got lucky to hold them to 6, Gabrud missed 3 open TD passes. Adjustments were needed or was a matter of time until they started connecting. Offense sure could have helped by shortening the game by not running plays so fast. Limit times EWU gets the ball you limit how many times they score. Stitt in post game said how hard it was on the defense to play 96 plays....dumb ass needs to realize if you slow it down on offense they don't get 96.
 
by Ursus1 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:46 pm

Honestly they got lucky to hold them to 6, Gabrud missed 3 open TD passes. Adjustments were needed or was a matter of time until they started connecting. Offense sure could have helped by shortening the game by not running plays so fast. Limit times EWU gets the ball you limit how many times they score. Stitt in post game said how hard it was on the defense to play 96 plays....dumb ass needs to realize if you slow it down on offense they don't get 96.
Click to expand...

Somebody actually watched the game with objectivity
 
Yeah, schematically EWU knew we weren't gonna be able to adjust to what they were doing in the second half. Gubrud said as much. Semore couldn't adjust, and it was painfully obvious.

But actually sustaining more than like 2 drives would've easily won us the game.
 
sdk.catfish said:
by Ursus1 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:46 pm

Honestly they got lucky to hold them to 6, Gabrud missed 3 open TD passes. Adjustments were needed or was a matter of time until they started connecting. Offense sure could have helped by shortening the game by not running plays so fast. Limit times EWU gets the ball you limit how many times they score. Stitt in post game said how hard it was on the defense to play 96 plays....dumb ass needs to realize if you slow it down on offense they don't get 96.
Click to expand...

Somebody actually watched the game with objectivity
Click to expand...

The pressure in the first half kept Gubrud off just enough to miss some wide open passes. No way the defense was going to keep that pace up the entire game. EWU just waited for their time until the D wore out.
MT should of switched to a ball control offense at the begining of the third instead of trying so many low percentage shots down field. Would of kept EWU offense off of the field and allowed the D to rest. Not really what the d could of done differently. Although they could of tackled better in the second half.
 
The short screens to the WR's killed us. Any time ewooo put two WR's out within a yard of each other the coaches or the secondary should have been able to recognize what play was coming. They ran it again and again and again. One guy on the line and the second defender 10 yards back clearly was not the answer to the WR screen.
 
someone on the d should have convinced stitt to not go for it on that first 4th down. it wasn't a gimme, and by having ewu start their drive at midfield instead of (presumably) inside the 20 gave them instant momentum right at the start of the half. i thought it was a dumb decision, factoring in the potential momentum change, etc...
 
Ursus1 said:
Honestly they got lucky to hold them to 6, Gabrud missed 3 open TD passes. Adjustments were needed or was a matter of time until they started connecting. Offense sure could have helped by shortening the game by not running plays so fast. Limit times EWU gets the ball you limit how many times they score. Stitt in post game said how hard it was on the defense to play 96 plays....dumb ass needs to realize if you slow it down on offense they don't get 96.
Click to expand...

This is spot on, eastern actually moved the ball pretty well in the first half. Gubrud missed a couple wide-open touchdown passes, partly due to the pressure of the Griz defense, which had fresh legs in the first half. Eastern probably left a good 14-17 points off the board in the first half by overthrows, which may have fooled the griz coaches thinking they were doing just fine and no adjustments were needed at half time.

The griz Defense was absolutely gassed in the second half, and couldn’t get stops. Eastern also realized the WR screen was a gimme for at least 6-8 yards and went their all day. The best thing the Griz could have done was to have some long, time consuming drives on offense.
 
sdk.catfish said:
by Ursus1 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:46 pm

Honestly they got lucky to hold them to 6, Gabrud missed 3 open TD passes. Adjustments were needed or was a matter of time until they started connecting. Offense sure could have helped by shortening the game by not running plays so fast. Limit times EWU gets the ball you limit how many times they score. Stitt in post game said how hard it was on the defense to play 96 plays....dumb ass needs to realize if you slow it down on offense they don't get 96.
Click to expand...

Somebody actually watched the game with objectivity
Click to expand...

All true, but the other "objective" part is the Griz could have and should have put the game away numerous times. Dropped pass after dropped pass. Gubrud making first downs on third and very long. Damn impressed with him. The game could have gone either way. Credit the Eagles.
 
Tackle, meaning get in position & wrap up once you’ve actually gotten hands on the ball carrier. They’re back to raking @ the arms, trying to get a fumble & so far, all it means is additional yards after contact for the ball carrier.
 
marceagfan5 said:
The best thing the Griz could have done was to have some long, time consuming drives on offense.
Click to expand...

This could have helped - with our secondary thin and possibly outmanned for the rest of the year, Stitt and Gresch probably should work on a plan for slowing things down and holding leads. Then again, there were some just-missed longer passes which would have extended the lead even more. Supposedly, we take what the D gives us, right? There is a certain rationale there, just have to execute...
 
It is the fans job to bitch and complain about the defense. It is not the fans job to decide what should have been done different. The DC and Head Coach need to figure it out. Obviously they didn't, AGAIN!

All I can say is, playing 20 feet off your man over and over and over doesn't work...jus sayin!
 
The best defense is to keep our offense on the field. We need to focus on getting first downs and burning some clock. Better results will follow.

I was watching Seattle play this afternoon. The announcer mentioned that Seattle did much better with a hurry up offense but also said that when a hurry up offense isn't working, it is very hard on the defense. Good point.

And what about field position? Would this improve our defense? Why aren't we punting on 4th down near mid field when our punter could pin them deep? Make no sense at this level. Field position is sooo important. Better results will follow.
 
PlayerRep said:
What should the Griz D have done in the 2d half? Having held EWU to 2 FG's in the first half, I assume big adjustments were not needed at halftime.

How should UM have adjusted to stop the passes in the second half? Let's see some specifics. I don't really have any good ideas or specific ideas.
Click to expand...
Having the defenders not standing and looking for a signal from the sideline while EWU was set, ready and snapping the ball could not have hurt.
 
MTGRZ said:
PlayerRep said:
What should the Griz D have done in the 2d half? Having held EWU to 2 FG's in the first half, I assume big adjustments were not needed at halftime.

How should UM have adjusted to stop the passes in the second half? Let's see some specifics. I don't really have any good ideas or specific ideas.
Click to expand...

Jamming WR at the line? Sliding an outside LB to help (which decreases QB pressure but that didn't matter since he was throwing it quickly)?
Click to expand...

Okay, that's a thought. But when the team is playing mostly zone coverage, you can't jam the receiver at the line. You have to either start about 7 yards deep or starting moving backwards a bit before the snap.
 
Our offense would look like that if everyone played 15 yards off the screen pass. Also, wrap up tackling is beneficial to competitive football.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Ursus1 said:
Honestly they got lucky to hold them to 6, Gabrud missed 3 open TD passes. Adjustments were needed or was a matter of time until they started connecting. Offense sure could have helped by shortening the game by not running plays so fast. Limit times EWU gets the ball you limit how many times they score. Stitt in post game said how hard it was on the defense to play 96 plays....dumb ass needs to realize if you slow it down on offense they don't get 96.
Click to expand...

True, Gabrud did miss some earlier in the game. However, he didn't later later in the game, or not much. The secondary must have "adjusted" to keep the receivers in front of them. That seems to have been a positive adjustment.
 
uofmman1122 said:
Yeah, schematically EWU knew we weren't gonna be able to adjust to what they were doing in the second half. Gubrud said as much. Semore couldn't adjust, and it was painfully obvious.

But actually sustaining more than like 2 drives would've easily won us the game.
Click to expand...

Don't agree with you. Gabrud said they knew those thing coming into the game. Why didn't EWU do whatever they did, and do it with success, in the first half? Also, Gabrud didn't say they knew Semore couldn't adjust. You just made that up.
 
RayWill said:
sdk.catfish said:
by Ursus1 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:46 pm

Honestly they got lucky to hold them to 6, Gabrud missed 3 open TD passes. Adjustments were needed or was a matter of time until they started connecting. Offense sure could have helped by shortening the game by not running plays so fast. Limit times EWU gets the ball you limit how many times they score. Stitt in post game said how hard it was on the defense to play 96 plays....dumb ass needs to realize if you slow it down on offense they don't get 96.
Click to expand...

Somebody actually watched the game with objectivity
Click to expand...

The pressure in the first half kept Gubrud off just enough to miss some wide open passes. No way the defense was going to keep that pace up the entire game. EWU just waited for their time until the D wore out.
MT should of switched to a ball control offense at the begining of the third instead of trying so many low percentage shots down field. Would of kept EWU offense off of the field and allowed the D to rest. Not really what the d could of done differently. Although they could of tackled better in the second half.
Click to expand...

I like this idea.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Back
Top